How do Protestants interpret Luke 5:1-3?


#1

There were clearly two boats. One is Simon Peter’s and the other was not. Christ got in to Simon’s boat to teach and not the other. I would suggest that if Protestants were really Bible Christians, they would get in to Peter’s boat as well.


#2

I think this is a case where most Christians believe that reading Petrine doctrines into Luke 5 is an instance of trying to overstate the case so much that you tip the boat over for them.

Petrine primacy can’t really be judged by what boat someone got into. If you are going to subscribe to it, it really needs to be based on Matthew 16 and other direct passages (feed my sheep, confirm your brothers).

Rob+


#3

[quote=Maranatha]There were clearly two boats. One is Simon Peter’s and the other was not. Christ got in to Simon’s boat to teach and not the other. I would suggest that if Protestants were really Bible Christians, they would get in to Peter’s boat as well.
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So let me get this straight: you ask a question, then tell every Protestant what they should do before they can answer? Why even start this thread?


#4

While I agree that the passage doesn’t stand on it own but I disagree that it “tip(s) the boat over for them.”

If that their best response, then I think they have some explaining to do.


#5

[quote=Maranatha]There were clearly two boats. One is Simon Peter’s and the other was not. Christ got in to Simon’s boat to teach and not the other. I would suggest that if Protestants were really Bible Christians, they would get in to Peter’s boat as well.
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Most sensible Catholics know the difference between strenght and dominance for although strong people tend to be dominant,people whoes only attribute is dominance inavariably leads to tyranny.

This era is certainly unique given that many great Catholics never felt the need to defend the Papacy through the primacy of Peter and indeed some had plenty to say about the growing dominance of the papacy .

I do not know if now I grew too brash, 
      But I replied to him in the same measure, 90       "Well, then, tell me: how costly was the treasure             "That our Lord demanded of Saint Peter           Before he gave the keys into his keeping?           Surely he said only ‘Follow me.’  

italianstudies.org/comedy/Inferno19.htm

Undisciplined Catholics register a dilution of the position of Peter as an attack on the Church hence this type of posting which attaches a fellow Christian’s acceptance of Christ by accepting Peter and the ‘Church’ but I assure anyone that this is a contemporary phenomena.

The Johannine corpus of writings is a living miracle,the two great evils of ‘knowledge’ in the 2nd letter and ‘dominance’ in the 3rd letter highlight that when these things get out of Kilter the Church suffers.

usccb.org/nab/bible/3john/3john.htm

It is up to true Catholics to fight to restore balances against the backdrop of crude standards which threaten that gentleness which Catholics practice their faith in their community.Anyone who imagines that making themselves feel better by attacking fellow Christians is no Christian.


#6

[quote=wabrams]So let me get this straight: you ask a question, then tell every Protestant what they should do before they can answer? Why even start this thread?
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Sorry if I offended, but I just wanted to point out that the meaning seemed clear to me.


#7

Generally protestants seem more interested in exegesis that isogesis. noprotest


#8

[quote=Maranatha]Sorry if I offended, but I just wanted to point out that the meaning seemed clear to me.
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It only has meaning when combined with many other passages in the bible. On it’s own, it’s nothing more than a interesting story.


#9

[quote=wabrams]It only has meaning when combined with many other passages in the bible. On it’s own, it’s nothing more than a interesting story.
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Do you mean Matt. 16:18-19


#10

[quote=Maranatha]Do you mean Matt. 16:18-19
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That among others.


#11

[quote=Maranatha]There were clearly two boats. One is Simon Peter’s and the other was not. Christ got in to Simon’s boat to teach and not the other. I would suggest that if Protestants were really Bible Christians, they would get in to Peter’s boat as well.
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Silly analogy.

Putting the cart before the horse. Who’s “boat” did Peter get into?

Forget about Peter, I’ll follow Jesus.


#12

[quote=ruzz]Silly analogy.

Putting the cart before the horse. Who’s “boat” did Peter get into?

Forget about Peter, I’ll follow Jesus.
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So you’ll follow Jesus in to Peter’s boat?


#13

[quote=Maranatha]So you’ll follow Jesus in to Peter’s boat?
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LOL

Actually, I think Peter gave up the fishin’ business.

I’ll stick with Jesus.

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#14

[quote=ruzz]LOL

Actually, I think Peter gave up the fishin’ business.

I’ll stick with Jesus.

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I don’t understand how you can follow Jesus and not get in to Peter boat. He’s not in the other one.


#15

WHAT BOAT?? WHAT BOAT?? :banghead:


#16

I learned growing up that there are 3 rules for Biblical interpretation:
[list=1]
*]Context
*]Context
*]Context
[/list]From this (Luke 5:1-3) context, your argument makes no sense…We would all have to go to the seaside in order to hear Christ’s teachings. We would have to come from a “deserted place” (see ch 4, vv42ff), & we would have to follow Andrew as well as Peter, whilst leaving James & John without a place in the Christian faith.
I am sure that this is not the point that you were trying to make.Un fortunately, it seems to be the :wink: place where your question inexorably leads.
God bless.


#17

[quote=Zooey]I learned growing up that there are 3 rules for Biblical interpretation:
[list=1]
*]Context
*]Context
*]Context
[/list]From this (Luke 5:1-3) context, your argument makes no sense…We would all have to go to the seaside in order to hear Christ’s teachings. We would have to come from a “deserted place” (see ch 4, vv42ff), & we would have to follow Andrew as well as Peter, whilst leaving James & John without a place in the Christian faith.
I am sure that this is not the point that you were trying to make.Un fortunately, it seems to be the :wink: place where your question inexorably leads.
God bless.
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Your making is more complicated then it is. Christ decided to teach from Peter’s Boat not the other.


#18

No, I’m simply sticking to the context of the passage…
And I speak as a :wink: Protestant who has more than once heard a Catholic tell me that **I **was:tsktsk: taking something out of context…
God bless.


#19

[quote=Maranatha]I don’t understand how you can follow Jesus and not get in to Peter boat. He’s not in the other one.
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You’re not reading far enough!

Luke 5:11:So they pulled their boats up on shore, left everything and followed him.

They left the very boat that you are insisting that we should get in and did what? They followed Jesus.

The point of this story is not whose boat Jesus got in. It’s the response of the disciples to Jesus that matters. They left their way of providing for their earthly cares; the only profession they had probably ever known and relied solely on Jesus.

This should be our response - we should leave everything and follow Jesus.


#20

The Straw Man liveth.

O+


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