How do you battle a curse?


#1

Father Gabriele Amorth and other exorcists tell us that curses are real. How, then, are we to fight against them?

I’m presuming an exorcism won’t work; to get one, you need to be under serious demonic oppression and it needs to be checked out my scientists. Curses in general, however, seem to just deal with bringing down misfortunes on life.

I know one answer is prayer, but it seems like curses are easily put on but praying for them to be removed is an uphill battle. It’s like having a net thrown on you versus praying for the net to lift off, you know?


#2

Prayer


#3

Hello…basically stay in a state of grace and receive the sacraments often. A “curse” cannot effect you is you are in a state of grace.


#4

A state of grace is not proof against a curse.

Curses are of demonic origin. Basically, to protect vs. a curse, one does the same thing one would do to protect oneself versus demons.

These steps are as effective as they are vs. demons, that is, you will have variable results, and sometimes be forced to suffer no matter how holy you are or what you do until the specific thing happens that God desires to happen to free you of it, or you die, and in that case are freed of it perforce or suffer it forever depending on your destination. :slight_smile:

I’m afraid there’s a bit more to it than I have quite put but this is one of those areas where things simply aren’t as written about and discussed as one would like.

For example, for the evil eye, as per any curse I believe one of the primary steps vs. it is to forgive whomever afflicted you with it and pray for the soul of that person with perfect charity.

Sacramentals, prayer, sacraments, and spending time at mass and before the monstrance are great aids. Also much demonic activity and therefor curses afflict people because they have particular sins… so overcoming particular sins is quite necessary.

I believe exorcisms are very useful vs. curses.


#5

I’m not sure that’s true. Mother Teresa was in a constant state of grace, but she suffered from demonic disturbances. So did Jesus, come to think of it.


#6

St [Padre] Pio suffered from them also.

So, back to the original post…


#7

<<A state of grace is not proof against a curse.

Curses are of demonic origin. Basically, to protect vs. a curse, one does the same thing one would do to protect oneself versus demons>>

What you’re saying is that demons are stronger than God.

The Bible says, “Greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world.”


#8

Who can curse me and how do they do it? How can I tell if I have been cursed?


#9

I listen to Father John Corapi all the time. He is a very holy and orthodox priest. He has said that the evil one cannot have control over us if we are in a State of Grace. (no unconfessed mortal sins)

He tells the story of St. Teresa of Avila, woke up to a horrible image of Satan. She said, “Oh it’s only you.” Turned around and went to sleep.

A have actually never heard of Mother Theresa suffering a curse or being possessed. I don’t even think she was oppressed.

The evil one might try to harm us, but Jesus’ grace protects us.

The evil one tormented Padre Pio, yes. But externally. Padre Pio was always under God’s protection. The evil one had no power over Padre Pio.

Obviously, none of us are Mother Theresa or Padre Pio. If we remain in a state of grace, and close to the sacraments, curses etc. cannot bother us.


#10

What you’re saying is that demons are stronger than God.

"Then Jesus called the people to him. His followers were also there. Then Jesus said, “If any person wants to follow me, he must say ‘No’ to the things he wants. That person must accept the cross (suffering) that is given to him, and he must follow me.” Mark 8:34, Matthew 16:24

Wrong. You could say that from witnessing the crucifixion as a mistaken person.

What I am saying is that God permits these things because of a certain natural law and freedom given to both men and demons, as well as for the sake of His justice and mysterious Will, just like with Job.

There have been great saints who have been -possessed-, and allowed to be attacked by the devil -in every way-, beaten, tempted almost beyond endurance, tortured, you name it.

Just like with human -people- who do these things to the Christian matyrs. Fallen angels are people too.

Were the devils stronger than God? No. God permitted it like he permitted it with Job, and with Himself as His example to us.

We are all to walk the way of the Cross, and these things that happen to us can all turn to our good if we submit to God’s will in them.

A state of grace is no assurance of lack of attack from the devil – What it does is make one more protected and resistant to sin, but a person in a state of grace actually -attracts- devils more than a person who -is in a state of damnation-. Why? Because the devils -do not care about the damned, they have WON-. They do care about the people in a state of grace, those are the soldiers they make war against.

God turns that war to the betterment and purification of the saints, by teaching them what the sins and flaws in them are that they have to overcome. :slight_smile:

‘He began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer greatly and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests, and the scribes, and be killed, and rise after three days. He spoke this openly. Then Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. At this he turned around and, looking at his disciples, rebuked Peter and said, “Get behind me, Satan. You are thinking not as God does, but as human beings do.”’ Mark 8:31-33


#11

See an exorcist if you think someone has cursed you.


#12

That depends, there can be powerful curses. For example from father Amorth’s book ‘An Exorcist Tells His Story’ p.137
"Almost always when the curse is powerful it also includes diabolical oppression or even possession. That is why exorcism is nesessary. The most dreadful curses can be those that are intended for the destruction of an entire family or to strike an entire family."


#13

Seems to me you fight a curse with prayer.:shrug:


#14

Hi Cluny and OP,

I’ve heard people come to this conclusion before when they have difficulty believing that demons could harrass someone in a state of grace. The truth is God sometimes allows this to happen for the good of our souls (see Romans 8:28). This very topic is covered in the Catechism:

395 The power of Satan is, nonetheless, not infinite. He is only a creature, powerful from the fact that he is pure spirit, but still a creature. He cannot prevent the building up of God’s reign. Although Satan may act in the world out of hatred for God and his kingdom in Christ Jesus, and although his action may cause grave injuries - of a spiritual nature and, indirectly, even of a physical nature- to each man and to society, **the action is permitted by divine providence which with strength and gentleness guides human and cosmic history. It is a great mystery that providence should permit diabolical activity, but “we know that in everything God works for good with those who love him.” **

In terms of battling a curse, it is important to remember this quote:

Satan can do nothing to us unless it is permitted by God for our own good. If you are concerned about curses or demonic harrassment, I recommend the Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog, specifically the prayer to break curses and the hedge prayer for protection of self.

The sacraments and prayer are the first line of defense. If someone continues to have problems, see a priest (if you can find one who takes these things seriously). You can also visit the SPCDC help page for advice.

And for those who asked how a curse can be brought on, it can be the result of someone else’s dabbling in the occult and casting spells (which is nothing more than asking demons to do one’s bidding) to place a curse, but more commonly curses are often the result someone carelessly cursing another person with hateful words. For example, a curse can be brought on when someone uses the d-word and says “d-you” (or him/her, or the person’s name, etc.), or saying something to the effect of they hope that person goes to hell. Often the consequences are devastating when the curse is spoken by a parent or someone else with authority over another person.

We need to be careful what we say as words have spiritual consequences even if we don’t literally mean them. Demons are very legalistic and will take these words literally and use them as grounds to harrass someone.


#15

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