Sometimes we are uncertain about the actions of a Pope or about the apparent direction of the Church in some way. How have you handled these things in the past? How do you handle them now?
Focus on Jesus. Read the gospels. Read them again. Try to live as He lived. Apply His experiences to your own. He taught the truth, and was murdered for it. This is the kind of world we live in, and must accept, while fighting to change it.
I just have to trust that Jesus will guide me in the direction I need to be in. There is so much negativity that it becomes overwhelming and we can get lost in all the muck. By focusing on Jesus and his teachings, I know that I will be on the right path no matter what is thrown in my way. We must remember that the Pope is just a man, albeit the Vicar of Christ on earth. Still he will stumble as we all do.
I trust as much as I can.
I use my intellect that God has given me to see what is happening to the church
I support those prelates who uphold Catholic teachings
I pray for the prelates that don’t
I Admonishing the Sinner in rebuking ( and being rebuked – when required) those who stray from catholic teachings with charity
I complain on internet message boards.
Yes … Its therapeutic
I get my spiritual direction and CAF on!
I remember that I am on the barque of Peter. All around this barque are little flotillas that are screaming for attention…encouraging us to jump off and join them.
If I forget the premise…Thou art Peter…The gates of Hell will NOT prevail…this Church was founded by GOD…the Holy Spirit will not lead us into error…cannot error…the very planks that keep the waters of heresy and schism out of the Barque of Peter ** I am in peril. I will not be safe from the onslaughts of Satan and his whispering cohorts.
Were I to doubt God’s Almighty Word and start to look for escape routes because I did not trust in the Master…who to all may appear to be sleeping…
I pray that the Master would rebuke me with the same words He uttered to His Apostles;
"And leaving the crowd, they took him with them in the boat, just as he was. And other boats were with him. And a great storm of wind arose, and the waves beat into the boat, so that the boat was already filling. But he was in the stern, asleep on the cushion; and they woke him and said to him, “Teacher, do you not care if we perish?” Mk 4:36-38
And he awoke and rebuked the wind, and said to the sea, “Peace! Be still!” And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm. He said to them, “Why are you afraid? Have you no faith?” And they were filled with awe, and said to one another, “Who then is this, that even wind and sea obey him?”
(1) I have continually given the greatest pains and diligence to inquiring, from the greatest possible number of men outstanding in holiness and in doctrine, how I can secure a kind of fixed and, as it were, general and guiding principle for distinguishing the true Catholic Faith from the degraded falsehoods of heresy. And the answer that I receive is always to this effect; that if I wish, or indeed if anyone wishes, to detect the deceits of heretics that arise and to avoid their snares and to keep healthy and sound in a healthy faith, we ought, with the Lord’s help, to fortify our faith in a twofold manner, firstly, that is, by the authority of God’s Law, then by the tradition of the Catholic Church.
(2) Here, it may be, someone will ask, Since the canon of Scripture is complete, and is in itself abundantly sufficient, what need is there to join to it the interpretation of the Church? The answer is that because of the very depth of Scripture all men do not place one identical interpretation upon it. The statements of the same writer are explained by different men in different ways, so much so that it seems almost possible to extract from it as many opinions as there are men. Novatian expounds in one way, Sabellius in another, Donatus in another, Arius, Eunomius and Macedonius in another, Photinus, Apollinaris and Priscillian in another, Jovinian, Pelagius and Caelestius in another, and latterly Nestorius in another. Therefore, because of the intricacies of error, which is so multiform, there is great need for the laying down of a rule for the exposition of Prophets and Apostles in accordance with the standard of the interpretation of the Church Catholic.
(3) Now** in the Catholic Church itself we take the greatest care to hold that which has been believed everywhere, always and by all. That is truly and properly ‘Catholic,’** as is shown by the very force and meaning of the word, which comprehends everything almost universally. We shall hold to this rule if we follow universality , antiquity, and consent.* We shall follow universality if we acknowledge that one Faith to be true which the whole Church throughout the world confesses; antiquity if we in no wise depart from those interpretations which it is clear that our ancestors and fathers proclaimed; consent, if in antiquity itself we keep following the definitions and opinions of all, or certainly nearly all, bishops and doctors alike.***
(4) What then will the Catholic Christian do, if a small part of the Church has cut itself off from the communion of the universal Faith? The answer is sure. He will prefer the healthiness of the whole body to the morbid and corrupt limb. But what if some novel contagion try to infect the whole Church, and not merely a tiny part of it? Then he will take care to cleave to antiquity, which cannot now be led astray by any deceit of novelty. What if in antiquity itself two or three men, or it may be a city, or even a whole province be detected in error? Then he will take the greatest care to prefer the decrees of the ancient General Councils, if there are such, to the irresponsible ignorance of a few men. But what if some error arises regarding which nothing of this sort is to be found? Then he must do his best to compare the opinions of the Fathers and inquire their meaning, provided always that, though they belonged to diverse times and places, they yet continued in the faith and communion of the one Catholic Church; and let them be teachers approved and outstanding. And whatever he shall find to have been held, approved and taught, not by one or two only but by all equally and with one consent, openly, frequently, and persistently, let him take this as to be held by him without the slightest hesitation.
Therefore, because of the intricacies of error, which is so multiform, there is great need for the laying down of a rule for the exposition of Prophets and Apostles in accordance with the standard of the interpretation of the Church Catholic… …
and let them be teachers approved and outstanding. And whatever he shall find to have been held, approved and taught, not by one or two only but by all equally and with one consent, openly, frequently, and persistently, let him take this as to be held by him without the slightest hesitation. "…
This quote can be interpreted both ways…hmmm…looks like we need an authority!
That sends us back to the premise;
- Law. a. a basis, stated or assumed, on which reasoning proceeds.
b. an earlier statement in a document.
c. (in a bill in equity) the statement of facts upon which the complaint is based.
Thou Art Peter…The Gates of Hell will NOT prevail…
As long as the invite is asking me to jump ship…sorry no can do…
Start with the premise…
"Thou art Peter…The Gates of Hell will NOT prevail…
I will send you a Comforter…He will instruct you in all things…"
Now let us argue.
Can Christ be a LIAR?
Can the Holy Spirit DECIEVE?
Can He allow His Church of which He is the Head to be led into universal error?
I think that answer is unanimous.
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[quote=St Vincent of Lerins]But what if some novel contagion try to infect the whole Church, and not merely a tiny part of it? Then he will take care to cleave to antiquity, which cannot now be led astray by any deceit of novelty.
Christ is not a liar. As long as there is at least one St Athanasius, for example around, the gates of Hell are not prevailing against the Church!
I’ve been there as far as the direction of the church. I prayed alot and talked to the Lord. Surprisingly he led me to the Society of St. Peter. I didn’t even know they existed. I feel at home now, at peace, have joy, in the right place and don’t have to concern myself with the crisis the church is in today.
I think we need to be concerned about the Church, even if we have found a particular church where we feel properly nourished.
Its too EZ to just be happy in our parish and not worry about the big picture
Somedays I think that my Parish is great … happy there…who cares what else is happening in the church… but its not the right attitude
Am I my brother’s keeper? -Cain.
I think one needs to be more concerned with their spiritually.