[quote=Rana]My muslim friends believe that Jesus is a human being (a prophet like the others) and they cannot absorb the fact that he is the son of God and God himself. I tried to explain to them the whole reason why Jesus came to save us and everything, but there is one point that they keep on stressing is that they cannot visionize that God almighty would be lowered into the position of a human being and act like one in terms of going to the bathroom, burping and stuff like that!!! Can you imagine??
Why is it more problematic that God should do something which makes Him capable of burping, than that a being which has urinated, defecated, begotten or born children, broken wind, burped, vomited, and so on, should go from earth to heaven ?
For man to have and to demonstrate animal functions such as those, does not make him any less a man - it is sin, not defecating or passing wind, that does that. Some of those things are not very dignified - that is what makes them so useful as means of puncturing pride: it is hard to take oneself too seriously if one is conscious that one may need to “take a leak”.
If God is going to save a creature who does such undignified and smelly things - it’s not because man does those things: it’s because man sins. We need salvation from sin, not from burping or belching or vomiting. And as God is Love, His dignity is not an issue: in loving us enough to redeem & remake us, He considers our neediness, not His glory and honour. For Love forgets self, it denies self - which is exactly what Jesus did: He did something which was at one & the same time utterly undignified, by being crucified; and something of the highest imaginable dignity, by doing so to gain eternal life and forgiveness for us. What He did was not dignified, but far better than that - it was an act of Love. He was not thinking of Himself or His dignity: the gospels show Him as set on doing His Father’s Will, not on pleasing Himself. And doing His Father’s Will was identical with sparing no effort to bring about our salvation.
IOW, He is the ideal Muslim - for His submission (“Islam” means “submission”) to His Father’s Will was perfect in every way. To love as Christ Loved both His Father and us, is to be perfectly submitted to the Father’s Will. And that is anything but undignified.
Dignity is measured not by whether one burps, but by one’s likeness to God - so it is better to have a weak bladder and to love God, than to be free of such problems, and not care a button for God. It is our relation to God, not our bodily weaknesses, that are the measure of our likeness to Him. ##
I never even thought about those things! How can i explain to them this concept especially in relation to those human actions, did Jesus completely act like a human (knowing that he had two natures)?
I am probably sounding so ignorant, but this is an aspect of my faith that has never occurred to me, but some people outside the faith did…and i honestly don’t know what to say.
Thank you and God Bless.
He is entirely human, just as He is entirely Divine. He differs from us humanly in being wholly free of all sin and its effects.