So you think that in order to love the sinner but hate the sin (love your enemy) you must also love everything you enemy represents?
And yet, we won’t find “hate with a perfect hate” – as you assert – written in the Gospels.
Written in the psalm. The NT completes not does away with the OT.
I’ll wait to see your quotation of Jesus making that assertion. Until then, I’ll stand by my claim that you’re putting words into Jesus’ mouth. :sad_yes:
Another response to your assertion that love the sinner but hate the sin is not what we are taught, which I believe is proved incorrect because of the part about us loving our enemies, and the part about us being admonished for not recognising the difference between what is good and evil, is the fact that we are told in the Creation stories that, although humanity is MADE GOOD, through original sin, we are a fallen peoples. After baptism, we are still inclined to sin.
Point being, that if we hate sinners, then we are in a sense saying that we hate Creation, and this is evidently wrong. By hating with a “perfect hate” (as the psalm says), we are hating sin, hating evil, without hating Creation; we are hating that which is opposed to our Creator.
If we cannot recognise the difference between what is good and evil then we can’t admonish with a perfect love.
We can and should assess all situations and can judge to see if the situation is good or not, but at the same time, without causing damage to the person whom we believe is living in sin - whether us or someone else. This is evaluation, discernment, wisdom even. And likewise, not to overly indulge in one’s time with others who are living a life opposed to the Gospel is considered wise as such time spent could bring about near occasions of sin; hence, why it is healthy to be part of a parish community.
I worded it badly at the beginning in my first posts. I could have said right at the start:
Hate with a perfect hate means to hate what we and others represent when we and they oppose our Creator.
or even better:
Hate with a perfect those evil things opposed to our Creator that humanity is capable of, for the sake of our Creator, for the victim’s sake, for the sake of the oppressor’s soul, and for our own.
When we know what is good and evil, we can take the hate and emotional state away, letting the hate turn, allowing it to manifest, into a positive active remedy found only through loving input and prayer.
What I said though can easily be misconstrued as believing it is okay to hate someone’s soul. This is wrong. So my wording was initially confusing and so badly done…
But, I hold to, “HATE” most surely, and absolutely, being a valid word. When used in the right context.