Hello, I’m new and hope someone can answer this. I have not found a satisfactory answer thus far.
I have done about as much investigation as I can. I have spoken with priests, scholars, read quite a few books, talked to regular Catholics and throughout all this I have come to one conclusion: for Catholicism to claim that Popes have not pronounced errant dogma, it must demonstrate that the following was not said infallibly:
“The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.”
Pope Eugene IV, Papal Bull Cantate Domino (1442) Promulgated during a solemn session at the Ecumenical Council of Florence, using the strongest authoritative language seemingly fulfilling Vatican I’s criteria for infallibility.
This is not something Catholics can sweep under the rug anymore. It must be dealt with honestly and thoroughly yet rarely is. It clearly states that Jews and Schismatics are not part of the Church, despite modern broad interpretations of the concepts: “invincible ignorance” and “invisible Church”. I do not believe “doctrinal development” applies here since it is clearly at odds with modern Catholic teaching despite Vatican’s unconvincing efforts to demonstrate otherwise. The only way around it is to show that it was not pronounced infallibly, but how?
Please keep answers focused on why this document fails the criteria Vatican I laid out for infallibility. If you believe Eugene’s quote does not conflict with modern Catholic teaching then please provide a quote of a contemporary to Eugene IV that shows people at that time did not take Eugene literally and did believe that Jews, Pagans and Schismatics may have a chance to get into heaven. Perhaps Eugene himself clarified, but doubtful.
Therefore there are two ways to answer:
Show beyond reasonable doubt why Cantate Domino is not infallible.
Provide a quote by a contemporary of Eugene IV or himself that shows people were not misled and instead did believe Jews, Pagans and Schismatics have a chance to get into Heaven.
This goes to the heart of the non-Catholic question: Can the Catholic Church be trusted to teach correctly? May God grant wisdom, patience, temperance and fortitude.
Thank you and I look forward to reading your answers and engaging in discussion.