[quote="Trebor135, post:6, topic:286805"]
Holy smokes. For this Westerner, that's just... intense. :p Hats off to you. :)
Eh, I thought it might be too, and it was for a little while (maybe the first month or so), but you really do get used to it. It's just like the fasting or any other discipline that is guided by the church. It seems really hard for a while, and then you settle in after a bit, and by the time the fast is concluding you forget those things that you used to eat. I actually forgot to stop fasting at the end of Lent this year (it was my first one in the COC, so nobody gave me a hard time), because I didn't know that during the Holy 50 days (between Lent and Pentecost) we aren't allowed to fast *at all * -- no Wednesday/Friday fast, either! So during that time I asked abouna about how I should handle the fasting when I was having a guest from out of state who is not Orthodox, and abouna was scandalized! "You are still fasting! Oh no, my son...no, no, no...NO FASTING right now! Stop it immediately! It is the holy 50 days, you eat whatever you want and enjoy life with Christ!" :blush:
I know what you're talking about. The Maronite Liturgies I've attended a few Saturdays with a Lebanese acquaintance were a total letdown. The services were only about an hour, and by their implementation I was reminded of the mostly protestantized Novus Ordo Masses I've been to (only a few such Latin Catholic celebrations in my experience were endowed with the splendour and reverence which they deserve).
Oh, the Maronites...from what I've learned, this is all too common. I would not be too hard on them, myself. They face a lot of challenges from within and without. I do hope that they can free themselves somehow from the N.O.-inspired neo-Latinizations that plague them, of course. They deserve better, and I have plenty of evidence that it was not too long ago that they had much better liturgies than they usually have now.
At least the Maronite parish that I've visited is far too latinized for my tastes--input from practicing Maronites would be appreciated. In contrast, the Melkite parish in the same city, despite the taint of latinization in holding First Communion services, offers Divine Liturgies lasting about an hour and a half which are celebrated in a manner far more faithful to the Eastern tradition. :D
Yes, I have heard that about the Melkites. Good for them. My only experience with the Eastern Catholics was with the Ruthenians, which was a bit underwhelming but pleasant. I was sad to see in the only full-length Coptic Catholic service I've yet found that they did not have fraction prayers as we do; they gave communion by intinction using pre-cut little cruton-like squares, so it wouldn't really be possible for them to have such prayers.
(I just realized reading over my post that it reads like I was saying the Coptic liturgy lasted 30-45 minutes last time...hahaha...impossible. Of course, I meant it was that much shorter than usual. I know you know that, but...well, honestly, that does bug me. That's what I get for posting so late at night. Stupid cold.)