How to respond to a question about "idols" and "images"?

How to answer to the questions of Idols ( Statues, Paintings, Art, Icons ) in the church with Biblical bases ?
Many say God destroyed those Statues and Why ? If God hates Statues, then why the Catholic Church have them?

What idols are you speaking of?
There are no idols in the Catholic Church.



I’m sorry but your question really is not clear. Could you give us an example in your own words?


Statues, Images, Icons in Church

If all statues and paintings are idols, then all sculptures and painters are evil heretics

Ahh ok that makes sense. First of all by pointing out that all the statues that are present in a Catholic church are of Human people.
Not of gods save for the statue that represents the body of our Lord Jesus Christ crucified. Jesus is GOD but the statue represents HIS human body.
Second we do not worship, adore, give sacrifice to any statue but only to GOD the Father. Only to HIM we offer sacrifice. And there are no statues for HIM.
As for biblical reasons behind WHY we can keep statues in our churches there many threads that have addressed that you can search the forum (Statues in the church) should give you plenty ammunition on how biblical they are.


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Well they are not idols
We dont worship them… also - God asked the Israelites to make statues of Angels for the Ark

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From Numbers:

“21:8 And the Lord said to him: Make a brazen serpent, and set it up for a sign: whosoever being struck shall look on it, shall live.
21:9 Moses therefore made a brazen serpent, and set it up for a sign: which when they that were bitten looked upon, they were healed.”

If God hates statues, why did He instruct Moses to make one and healed people who simply looked at it?

Because God doesn’t hate statues. God hates that which we set up in place of Him and worship: that is an idol.

Thanks for answering.

The furnishes of Solomon’s Temple and the Temple area are described in 1 Kings 6:23–7:51 and 2 Chronicles 3, including statues of cherubim and oxen, carved images of lions, cherubim and oxen, and needlework images of cherubim. You might find this YouTube video of Solomon’s Temple in 3D helpful.

In the video, the cherubim are mostly depicted as human-headed, winged lions. Although that is probably more historically accurate, I imagined the cherubim as more like humans with wings, as the video depicts them on the top of the Ark of the Covenant.

One could argue: If statues and other images of cherubim, i.e., angels, were ok for Solomon’s Temple and since the saints in heaven are like angels in heaven (Matt 22:30; Heb 12:22-24), then it is ok to have statues and images of saints in our churches.

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Nicea II (787), the Seventh Ecumenical Council:

We, therefore, following the royal pathway and the divinely inspired authority of our Holy Fathers and the traditions of the Catholic Church (for, as we all know, the Holy Spirit indwells her), define with all certitude and accuracy that just as the figure of the precious and life-giving Cross, so also the venerable and holy images, as well in painting and mosaic as of other fit materials, should be set forth in the holy churches of God, and on the sacred vessels and on the vestments and on hangings and in pictures both in houses and by the wayside, to wit, the figure of our Lord God and Saviour Jesus Christ, of our spotless Lady, the Mother of God, of the honourable Angels, of all Saints and of all pious people. For by so much more frequently as they are seen in artistic representation, by so much more readily are men lifted up to the memory of their prototypes, and to a longing after them; and to these should be given due salutation and honourable reverence (ἀσπασμὸν καὶ τιμητικὴν προσκύνησιν), not indeed that true worship of faith (λατρείαν) which pertains alone to the divine nature; but to these, as to the figure of the precious and life-giving Cross and to the Book of the Gospels and to the other holy objects, incense and lights may be offered according to ancient pious custom. For the honour which is paid to the image passes on to that which the image represents, and he who reveres the image reveres in it the subject represented. For thus the teaching of our holy Fathers, that is the tradition of the Catholic Church, which from one end of the earth to the other has received the Gospel, is strengthened. Thus we follow Paul, who spoke in Christ, and the whole divine Apostolic company and the holy Fathers, holding fast the traditions which we have received… Those, therefore who dare to think or teach otherwise, or as wicked heretics to spurn the traditions of the Church and to invent some novelty, or else to reject some of those things which the Church has received ( e.g. , the Book of the Gospels, or the image of the cross, or the pictorial icons, or the holy relics of a martyr, or evilly and sharply to devise anything subversive of the lawful traditions of the Catholic Church or to turn to common uses the sacred vessels or the venerable monasteries, if they be Bishops or Clerics, we command that they be deposed; if religious or laics, that they be cut off from communion.

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They are not idols. They are representations to help us when we pray.

Do you believe that photographs of loved ones are idols? It’s the same thing. We like to have representations of our loved ones there when we think about them whether they are alive or dead.

While the general explanation of statues not being objects of worship in and of themselves sort of works, it seems to this particular outsider that there remains a "well, it rather depends. . . . "

From observation (many, many holidays in Italy), the question of when veneration might cross the boundary is something that some might have to be nudged about from time to time.

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