FOR VEXWEB AND FRANCISCA
Well, let me muscle my way in here a bit.
I usually agree with francisca but I think the problem is that she is not aware of the Word movement.
Putting aside the bible altogether, I just want to say this. I would have to agree with the person who said that the Word of Faith movement preachers are preaching a different Christ.
Christ did NOT die on the cross to make us rich. Those preachers on the Word network all (well, not all 100% of them, some are not really WOF) seem like shysters (?) to me. They’re selling oil, pieces of lines and other things. They want you to “plant a seed”. I wish I had some of those seeds, I’d plant them in my backyard! LOL.
I never read anywhere in the New Testament where Jesus was concerned about being rich. Although He doesn’t mind if we are and use our money wisely. Unless I’m mistaken, He was concerned with how we lived our life, having the Holy Spirit dwelling inside of us, and getting us to heaven. He seemed to speak a lot about hell (at least 25% of all He said) and not about making money.
So how are they preaching Christ? THEY AREN’T! I NEVER hear a word being said about the Good News.
Another thing I’d like to add is that I heard a convert from the WOF on Marcus Grody, The Journey Home, EWTN, say that some of those members would like to leave their church but they’re afraid to; they must be so entrenched, I think it’s a cult more than christianity.
Oh. And what about the harm they cause when a person prays and believes that they’ve ALREADY RECEIVED their request and then they don’t really get it? Might this leave them wondering and doubting God altogether? And not only for monetary gain, but also for healings.
I’d put forth some of these arguments and maybe not even get into biblical explanations. I’m not watching the youtube video but I can understand that francisca would think it funny. Unfortunately, it’s no laughing matter.
There’s a guy with a funny hairdo and mustache that likes to plant these seeds: I mean, would you buy a used car from this guy? And he’s talking about GOD!
zz912 is right. They’re preaching a different gospel. So where is the line drawn? When you get away from: sinful man - need for salvation - God’s plan of redemption - Jesus’ life - His death on the cross - His resurrection - our acceptance as disciples.
A bible scripture did come to mind:
“Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles? Then I will tell them plainly, I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!”
What about the 1st letter of Timothy? It refutes false teachings.
I do believe the line in the sand is very clear.
God bless you