How to Scripturally Explain the Trinity to Skeptics


#1

:bible1: How to Scripturally explain the Trinity to skeptics.

Isaiah 45:18:
“For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; …I am the Lord; and there is none else.”

James 2:19:
“Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well; the devils also believe, and tremble.”

1 Timothy 2:5
"For there is one God: and one mediator of God and men, the man Christ Jesus: 6 Who gave himself a redemption for all, a testimony in due times."

Isaiah 48:16
“I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, there am I; and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me.”

The Gospels tell the story true.
There is the Father, there is the Son, and there is the Holy Spirit.
Three Persons, but One GOD.
Mind-blowing, indeed.
But, that is the revelation from Jesus (and all) in the OT & NT Scriptures.

Implied in the OT:
Genesis 1:26-27. 3:22.
Isaiah 6:8. 11:2. 42:1. 48:16.
(Isaiah 6:3 + Rev. 4:8.)

Implied in the NT:
Matthew 28:19. Luke 1:22. John 3:34. 14:16, 26. 15:26. 16:7, 13.
Acts 1:2. 2:33. 10:36. Romans 1:3. 8:9, 26. 1 Corinthians 12:3.
2 Corinthians 1:21. 13:14. Galatians 4:4. 2 Thessalonians 2:13, 16. 1 Timothy 3:16. Titus 3:4. Hebrews 9:14. 1 Peter 1:2. 3:18. 1 John 5:6. Revelation 1:8. 4:8.

The Father is who Jesus prayed to (of course).
And, the Father, (Jesus’ Father) is the one who spoke from Heaven.
Jesus is the Logos = (Word) of God - made flesh.
Yes, God donned human flesh and did everything needed to bring about our redemption, salvation and future with Him.

The Bible says that the Father is God, and raised Jesus from the dead:
Romans 6:4. Galatians 1:1. John 5:21 (5:17-21).

The Bible says that Jesus is God:
1 Timothy 2:5-6. 3:16. John 1:1-18. Isaiah 7:14. 9:6. Matthew 1:18-25. 28:16-20. Acts 4:10-12. 10:34-47. Philippians 2:5-13. 2 Corinthians 4:1-6. Hebrews 1:1-14. 13:8, 15. Colossians 1:9-29. 2:1-15. Romans 9:5. John 20:26-31. Revelation 1:1-20. 7:9-17. 19:11-16. 21:1-8.
Exodus 3:14. John 6:35. 8:12, 58. John 10:7, 11. 14:6. 15:1.

The Bible says that Jesus raised Himself from the dead:
John 2:13-25. John 10:1-21. John 11:25-27.

The Bible says that the Holy Spirit is God:
Acts 5:3-4. 17:28. Ephesians 4:3-6, 30.

The Bible says that the Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead:
Romans 1:4. 8:13-25. See also Ezekiel 37:11-14.

The Holy Spirit teaches us:
John 14:26. 15:26. 16:7-15. Luke 12:11-12. 1 Corinthians 2:9-16. 2 Peter 1:16-21.

The Holy Spirit can indwell us:
John 14:16-27. 1 Corinthians 6:19-20. 2 Corinthians 1:21-22. 6:14-18. Romans 8:9-11. Ephesians 1:12-14. 1 John 2:20-29. 4:1-6.
Exodus 29:45-46. Jeremiah 31:31-34. Galatians 2:15-21. 4:7.

Jesus can indwell us:
Revelation 3:20. John 14:20, 23. Romans 8:9-11. Ephesians 3:14-21. Colossians 1:9-27. Hebrews 1:1-3. John 1:1-18. Isaiah 7:14. 9:6-7. Ch. 53.

“I am with you always…” -Jesus, in Matthew 1:18-25. 28:16-20

John 14:
22 Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, “Lord, what then has happened that You are going to disclose Yourself to us and not to the world?”
23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him.
24 “He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine, but the Father’s who sent Me.
25 “These things I have spoken to you while abiding with you.
26 “But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.

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#2

You’re wasting your time on this tack.

The New Testament was written by the Church. To try to oppose it to the Church dogma of the time is sheer nonsense. You might as well criticise this post using my own books as your authority.

If the skeptic won’t accept that, he must live in his own little nonsense world.


#3

What are you balking/talking about ?


#4

The Question I have is:
Where are my Scripture references in defending the faith - on the contrary with the RCC?


#5

If you are asking how they are contrary to what the RCC teaches, the answr is: they aren’t.

Here’s my favorite verse to use in defending the Trinity. It is so irrefutable that the JW’s had no choice but to remove it from their “bible”.

1 John 5:7: “There are three who give testimony in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one”.


#6

AMEN.

Another item with JWs is the Resurrection of Jesus. They believe He never rose from the dead bodily - only spiritually. And they think that Jesus is actually Michael the ArchAngel. They are confused, and lost. I try to share with them when I can. They are under a lot of pressure to remain faithful to the JW’s WatchTower organization. They would be disowned and shunned if they went to another church.


#7

So irrefutable?

Comma Johanneum from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_Johanneum

The resulting passage is an explicit reference to the Trinity of Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and for this reason some Christians are resistant to the elimination of the Comma from modern Biblical translations.** Nonetheless, nearly all recent translations have removed this clause, as it does not appear in older copies of the Epistle and it is not present in the passage as quoted by any of the early Church Fathers, who would have had plenty of reason to quote it in their Trinitarian debates (for example, with the Arians), had it existed then. Most Churches now agree that the theology contained in the Comma is true, but that the Comma is not an original part of the Epistle of John.**

There are Catholic bibles which have excluded the Johannine Comma, such as NJB and the RSV-CE.

RSV-CE

1 John 5
6 This is he who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ, not with the water only but with the water and the blood. 7 And the Spirit is the witness, because the Spirit is the truth. 8 There are three witnesses, the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree. 9 If we receive the testimony of men, the testimony of God is greater; for this is the testimony of God that he has borne witness to his Son.

clerus.org/bibliaclerusonline/en/index.htm


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