HR 2454 (cap and trade) up for a vote in the House

HR 2454 the American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 is expected to come up for a vote in the House as early as tomorrow (Friday) June 26. While Nationalized Healthcare is in their left hand, this Cap and Trade legislation is what’s in their right hand that they don’t want you to see. The text of the bill is available at

The Heritage Foundation estimates electricity costs rising by 90 percent by 2035, gasoline by 58 percent, and natural gas by 55 percent. A household of four can expect to pay $1,241 more for energy annually by that year. And since higher energy costs raise the price of everything else, the total impact of this energy tax would reach nearly $3,000 per household per year from 2012-2035. Total gross domestic product losses average $383 billion annually from 2012-2035 and would total $9.4 trillion dollars.

According to Politico, %between%Al Gore is canceling his plans today to work the phones from Tennessee to get the votes for cap-and-trade. Some democrats are wavering. They still think it will pass, with some moderate Republicans voting for it.

This is not about clean energy. This is about central planning of our economy. Call your Congressman and demand that they vote no on this bill. Also, EVERYONE please call these undecided Reps: Sheila Jackson Lee 202-225-3816 (D TX 18th)
John Salazar 202-225-4761 (D CO 3rd)
Collin Peterson 202-225-2165 (D MN 7th)
Tim Holden 202-225-5546 (D PA 17th)
Tim Walz 202-225-2472 (D MN 1st)
Mike McIntyre 202-225-2731 (D NC 7th)
David Scott 202-225-2939 (D GA 13th)
Henry Cuellar 202-225-1640 (D TX 128th)

Republicans who are considering a yes vote (I can’t believe this):
Bartlett (MD) Fax: (202) 225-2193
Castle (DE) Fax: (202) 225-2291
Dent (PA) Fax: (202) 226-0778
Ehlers (MI) Fax: (202) 225-5144
Frelinghuysen (NJ) Fax: (202) 225-3186
Gerlach (PA) Fax: (202) 225-8440
Inglis (SC) Fax: (202) 226-1177
Tim Johnson (IL) Fax: (202) 226-0791
Kirk (IL) Fax: (202) 225-0837
Lance (NJ) Fax: (202) 225-9460
LoBiondo (NJ) Fax: (202) 225-3318
Petri (WI) Fax: (202) 225-2356
Platts (PA) Fax: (202) 226-1000
Ros-Lehtinen (FL) Fax: (202) 225-5620

Democrats who are considering a no vote (encourage them to do so):
Altmire (PA) fax: 202-226-2274
Bright (AL) fax 202-225-8913
Dahlkemper (PA) fax 202-225-3103
Driehaus (OH) . Fax: 202-225-3012
Ellsworth (IN) fax 202-225-3284
Kissell (NC) fax 202-225-4036
Kratovil (MD) fax 202-225-0254
Kanjorski (PA) fax (570) 825-8685
Minnick(ID) fax 202-225-3029
Teague (NM) Fax: 202-225-9599

Don’t be bashful when calling. Tell them folks across the US are tracking this and KEEPING THEIR JOB DEPENDS ON A NO vote. Tell them that their vote impacts you, so you want to be sure they understand that you will help support any candidate
that runs against them if they vote yes on the cap and trade.

As of yesterday, Pelosi did not have enough votes to pass the bill. I for one would like to keep it that way.

Given how much the cost of previous government programs have escalated way beyond the initial estimates, you can be sure that this program will also cost many times the initial estimate.

They’re really trying to sneak this one past the American people.

1200 pages … and no one has had the time to read it.

I’m not in favor of this legislation, but I’m also not alarmed by those percentages. Maybe I’m miscalculating, but I show that a doubling of energy costs (i.e. 100%) in 26 years would translate to an annual increase of 2.7%. At 90, 58 and 55 percent, the Heritage Foundation is reporting an even smaller annual increase (2.5%,1.8% and 1.7%) .

If this passes, you better grab your wallets and your you-know-what, because we are all going to suffer because of it. It has nothing to do with global warming-its just another liberal money grab. It makes me shiver…Roanoker

Based on the poor history of these estimating processes in the past, I expect the actual increases will be MUCH higher. In addition, the taxes will be administered by a cadre of true believers. The effect will be not just higher taxes, but the shut down of a lot of businesses.

Liberals don’t understand profits. Or the concept of profit. A profit is the difference between what you sell something for and what your costs are. If your costs exceed your selling price, then you go out of business. The Liberals want to get rid of profit. Government entities don’t have to be concerned about staying within their budgets. They just spend what they need to spend and ask for more money in the next budget cycle.

Companies can’t do that. They don’t have “budgets”. They have revenues. If their expenses/ spending exceeds their revenue, they are history. Gone. Pffft. Along with the jobs of their employees.

Somehow, Liberals get the idea that profits aren’t mathematical … they get the idea that profits are some kind of ideological construct and they want the profits GONE.

I was in discussion with some labor union presidents and they looked at the financial statements of the companies they were negotiating with as “just numbers”. Meaningless to them. They believed in “give and take”, but not in numbers.

The cap and trade would escalate costs and cause companies to just close their doors because they would be unable to keep their costs below their revenues.

And the cap and trade people think that’s just one of those things and don’t even look at the consequences.

In fact, Hillary Clinton said she had no sympathy for companies that are “undercapitalized” and could not stay in business.

More on the fraud involved in the cap & trade bill:

This is how Washington works. I find this more offending than anything else. And yet, these representatives keep being re-elected and re-elected. I’m more upset with the American people than the scammers at the House.

Two trends: the rise of the “professional politician” … whose job it is is to just get reelected. No expertise in any other subject.

And [as I recall] in 1947 or thereabouts there was a law passed that removed the responsibility for writing the details of implementing a law from the Congress. Prior to that, the Congress had to write all the picky details. But after that, they left the details to the bureaucracy. So, Congress was free to write more laws as fast as they could, without being responsible for any of the internal workings or details. [Administrative Reform Law?]

We’ve got to fight “global warming”, you know! Oh wait, there’s not been warming since 2001, so we’ve gotta stop “climate change”. Hang on, that term isn’t alarmist enough; it’s now “climate chaos”! “Cap and trade” is nothing but a Marxist scheme to gain control our economy. NO ONE with common sense believes that we humans can do anything to change the climate. This massive carbon tax will decimate families, ruin our capitalist system and translate into a massive transfer of (America’s precipitously falling) wealth to third world dictators. Remember, the only way that a government can enforce equality is to make everyone equally destitute.
The socialists have already robbed trillions from my kids and grandkids through “stimulus” packages and “bailouts”. Don’t allow Obama and his fellow travelers to scrap our entire Constitution! If you’re not terrified by what this arrogant man is proposing and enacting, you’re not paying attention. God Bless, Rob :sad_bye:

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