So if they believe in the Trinity, what do they believe about the D&C and PfGP, which teach against the Trinity?

EDIT: Just read on the website that they don’t consider the PfGP as scripture, and that they only use the Book of Mormon, the Bible, and the D&C.


We will have to agree to disagree


I honestly don’t know much about the CoC, so I can’t say anything beyond what their website says.

All I really know is that the Mormon faith had it’s first major split after Smith’s death, mainly over who was to succeed Smith. Emma and others believed it was their son, Smith III, and others, Brigham Young, who had been the senior apostle?? of the 12.

Emma and her group stayed in Missouri; Young and the others went to the Utah basin.


Where in the world does any of that state that they study other faiths?!?!?!?!?

The fact that Mormon proselytize among other faith groups, sure, there is nothing new about that. That is who they are. They definitely proselytize.

But that they are actually know and study about those faiths??



Interesting quote from the Community of Christ’s pledge about scripture:

Affirmation Five

“Scripture is vital and essential to the church, but not because it is inerrant (in the sense that every detail is historically or scientifically correct). Scripture makes no such claim for itself. Rather, generations of Christians have found scripture simply to be trustworthy in keeping them anchored in revelation, in promoting faith in Christ, and in nurturing the life of discipleship. For these purposes, scripture is unfailingly reliable (2 Timothy 3:16-17).”

And for background purposes, I’ll quote 2 Timothy 3:16-17 below:

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

So apparently, they don’t believe that scripture needs to be scientifically or historically accurate, as long as the teachings line up with those of the Bible.


All my posts regarding the tangent we have gotten on go back to Gazelam comment that I quote above
The Mormon faith does not formally keep track of other faiths that claim to be Christian,

You seem to have taken another tangent about what groups the Mormon faith proselytize to. They proselytize to anyone who will listen. Anyone, regardless of faith.

If we have any disagreements, it’s because the tangents keep changing and we aren’t on the same page in our comments.


(I would say their Affirmation Nine also speaks volumes as to being very different from the group that went to Utah. Very different. Also, I do not believe that they are much of a proselytizing church)

" Affirmation Nine

With other Christians, we affirm the Bible as the foundational scripture for the church. In addition, Community of Christ uses the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants as scripture. We do not use these sacred writings to replace the witness of the Bible or improve upon it, but because they confirm its message that Jesus Christ is the Living Word of God (Preface of the Book of Mormon; Doctrine and Covenants 76:3g). We have heard Christ speak in all three books of scripture, and bear witness that he is “alive forever and ever” (Revelation 1:18)."


Sarah, if you are interested in how the split within the Mormon faith happened after Smith as killed, I think the Wiki page does a decent, albeit basic, run down. As if often the case in religious institution (and heaven knows the Catholic church has had a boat load of this thru Her history) it’s about power


I am responding to the claim that Mormons do not learn about other faiths in order to proselytize people.

I was subjected to their version of Catholic teaching for years. Obviously, they didn’t get it from the catechism.

The article I linked made a point I heard several times by our RM “friend” that the missionaries were telling people in Rome that the Catholic Church was the whore of Babylon. Not found in the CCC but was a common LDS teaching about the Catholic Church.

Like I said, we will agree to disagree.


I’m actually finding the teachings of the CoC to be quite interesting. They have a separate version of the D&C that has been modified so that it does not object to any of the teachings of the Bible (teachings of polygamy, deification, etc. are nowhere to be found). Their D&C is, to put it simply, the “book of Joseph Smith” and tells of his story and journey in founding the Church, with a few guidelines such as ‘don’t do drugs or alcohol’ still prominent revelation along the way. It is quite different from the CoJCoLDS’s version, which is structured more like a textbook than it is like a book of the Bible.


Was that claim made? I will have to go back and re-read the thread.


This is the only thing I can find.
How I understand this comment has nothing to do with proselytizing but going to the idea of who and who is not Christian according to the Mormon Church.

Zero to do with proselytizing. Again, I think a tangent from what Gazelam said took place, which had nothing to do with what he (I assume Gazelam is male) said


Aside from tracing their history’s back to Smith, etc., they really aren’t much like Mormonism.
I’ve never even thought of them as Mormon, even when I was one. I just knew of their existence and being headquartered in Missouri


I’d say that the best way to describe them is a halfway point between the CoJCoLDS and the RC church. This website seems to give a pretty good description of the difference between the RLDS (the Community of Christ) and the CoJCoLDS:


I’m not clear on what you mean that they are a halfway point between the Catholic Church and the main Mormon church?

The Catholic Church goes all the way back to Christ Himself, He having founded it.
They, along with the main Mormon church, go back to the restoration movement of 19th century America.

I don’t see any halfway point myself, to be honest


I meant as far as teachings and beliefs go. They deny some things that are key to the LDS faith (deification) and also deny things that are key to the Catholic faith (cessationism). At the same time, they agree with key points of the Catholic faith (the Trinity) and key points of the LDS faith (Joseph Smith as a prophet). I’m not saying that they’re Catholic or LDS, I’m saying they’re a pretty good mix of the two.


It was a little bit about Christmas but a big part of it was about the first vision. It was at the Green Valley Stake Center.

My posts keep getting flagged for inflammatory language and name calling. Perhaps I just don’t belong here. No big deal, really. I know what I know . . . if my delivery isn’t the best, I guess it will just have to be kept to myself.


It’s okay Lemuel. You weren’t the only one. It’s hard to stay cool-minded when you feel so strongly about something, especially when it seems like everyone has a different opinion on the matter and they feel just as strongly about it as you do.


No they would not. Mormonism is the most pagan religion that I know of. They are NOT monotheists by any definition. They literally believe that we become gods of our own planets and sire spirit children who then in turn follow us and aspire to godhood of their own.


Well . . . I think you’re forgetting the art of pagan witchcraft, which surprisingly still has enough members to be considered a religion.

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