[quote="anrmenchaca47, post:1, topic:281401"]
Say a man and his wife have been having an arguement about sterilization in which the husband is against it but the wife, who is pregnant and no longer wants to have anymore children nor wants to participate in NFP, always makes every attempt bring it back up and indirectly suggest a vasectomy to the husband. The wife, feeling that husband completely went back on his word years before, and calling him a hypocrite when he mentioned he would himself have a vasectomy done, suggested she get a tubal ligation. However, the wife is feeling scared of the operation and has concerns that she would not be able to enjoy the baby after birth due to going directly to have the tubal ligation done in which she would feel a tremendous amount of pain.
The husband, who has made MANY attempts to explain what it means to practice NFP not to mention suggesting talking to a priest about it since she feels convinced that **SHE** is doing the right thing by God's standard's, finally becomes overwhelmed due to the emotional stress of the arguement, which by the way has been going on for 8 1/2 months, taking its toll on him and finally agreeing to a vasectomy. However, the man has been riddled with animmense sadness and guilt. :(
The man KNOWS that a vasectomy constitutes a mortal sins but would rather go through with it than have his wife perform a tubal ligation which could lead to more physical difficulties not to mention keeping her from committing a mortal sin which is wrong in the eyes of God and keeps her from doing the tubal ligation.
After agreeing to go through with it, the man notices his wife more at ease and a lot tension has ceased towards him creating a calmer atmosphere in the household but an emotional torment stirs within day in and day out in him.
Will the man be condemned to hell for this scenario?
Or could this mortal sin be forgiven?
Let me know what ya'll think of this scenario.
Life is more messy and complex than your hypothetical, which ironically has the ring of having been drawn from real life.
The rule that sex acts between a husband and a wife shall not be protected against conception was not some arbitrary limitation God imposed from above, at Mount Sinai, after man's creation.
It is constructed into our flesh. It suffuses us.
At its core, in our psyches and in the flesh ineffably attached to our psyches, sex is a trade-off, "You, human, get sexual pleasure, in return for accepting whatever reproducibility which that sex act generating that sexual pleasure may entail."
God created sex to be a "deal" between man (meaning man and woman) and God's nature.
When we structure sex with contraceptives or with sterilizing operations, so that we get the "bucks," sexual pleasure, without any of the naturally-existing "work" which the "bucks" pay for -- exposure of the self to the risk of parenthood -- then every time we enjoy sexual pleasure we are enjoying the proceeds of a theft.
Solo masturbation to climax is the same --- because sex has been yanked out of the reproductive process, the pleasure enjoyed is a theft.
It has been proposed by some Bible commentators that because Paul's sin lists are mostly composed of sex sins and sex-related sins, that "theft" in those lists refers to "theft of sexual pleasurte by masturbation and contraceptives" which existed in Paul's time.
For this reason, use of contraceptive means is normally a sin.
And for the same reason the Bible itself condemns use of contraceptives, 4 times, when it very nastily condemns use of "pharmakaeia," the ancient Greek euphemism for contraceptives and abortifacients.
Now, I have often wondered, "How simple is the process of forgiveness if, after a sinful sterilization process, the couple get to enjoy access to the proceeds of their theft -- sexual pleasure -- again and again and again, after the sterilization?" It resembles a robber breaking into Fort Knox, serving his time, and then after parole living off the proceeds which all know are sitting in the middle of his living room floor!
It's not a question of reading something here which makes a person feel guilty from now on.
It's a question of human conscience rebelling at the thought that you are enjoying the proceeds of your theft again and again and again and again after having served your time.
I have often wondered if divorce and use of contraceptives does not go hand-in-hand. When consciences of each member of the married couple trouble each member of the married couple because of cognitive dissonance, so that they end up screaming at each other about other things, does this result in divorce?
I do not like your conclusion, "Hey, it's good if I go to Hell, instead of my spouse." It doesn't hang together.
If you are in the mjidst of your own hypothetical, my advice is, "Pray with faith." God always answers prayers.
And if you can't find the faith to pray with faith, then pray for that faith.
Believe me, it works. All will be okay.
By the way, NFP works great. My wife and I did it for 30 years.