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This is a continuation of the various discussions on why people leave the Church.
... the feeling of rejection.
Don't ask questions otherwise you're not really Catholic.
I don't know what this means, unless maybe the cold shoulder I get when I won't go on anti-nuclear marches at a peace&socialjustice-type parish.
We don't want you unless you believe exactly like we do.
Catholics must hold certain beliefs to really be in full communion with the Church, like the divinity of Christ, etc. But Catholics are allowed to have different ideas in matters of prudence, like the best way to achieve helping those in need.
If you're at all different, don't bother participating.
What does this mean? My parish is very welcoming of us even tho we live far away and have little money, and there is a wide variety of people in our parish.
Sure you're welcome to sit in the pews and donate your money, but we don't want you at the alter.
If you're homosexual, don't love anyone.
Sex is not love. Homosexuals are called to chastity just like anyone else, and their situation is no different from that of many people whonrealize that for one reason or another they will never marry. No one, however, is forbidden to love others. Mother Teresa loved people.
If you've married someone who isn't Catholic, it doesn't count to us
Right, as a Catholic, you need to have a sacramental marriage, so you need to be married in the Church or have your marriage blessed. The former is not forbidden and the latter is very easy to accomplish. Unless of course one of you is divorced and there is no annullment, in which case that person may still be married to someone else.
and you cannot be fully Catholic if you have sex with your husband.
If there is no sacramental marriage, then this is like sex outside of marriage. You can refrain from either the sacraments or from sex until the situation is straightened out.
If you're a pregnant woman who is about to die in childbirth, we expect you to leave your husband a widower and your other children as orphans.
We cannot kill people even if it will save someone's life. Just because in this one narrow area a woman's life can be saved doesn't make it right; if a pregnant women needed a heart transplant, would it be ok to kill an Alzheimer's patient for his heart to save her life and prevent her husband from becoming a widow and her children from becoming orphans?
If you're a woman going through a miscarriage, you can't have a D&C because we don't even want doctors trained in the procedure.
Never heard this one, altho I did hear about a controversy a few years ago in whiched students' training in performing D&Cs was going to be required to be via abortion. A d&C after a miscarriage is not immoral.
If you're a woman, you aren't good enough to be one of our leaders.
If you are a woman, you can't be a "father" in any sense of the word. Why would you argue with God about His priesthood?
But women have had many influential positions in the Church and headed larger organizations than many parish priests do. And the person most highly regarded by the Church throughout the ages has been a woman: the Blessed Virgin Mary.
If you're a married couple who are struggling financially and emotionally with caring for the children you already have, don't do anything to postpone another 'blessing'.
You can use NFP to postpkne having children; you just can't use artificial birth control to ensure that you can have sex whenever you please while avoiding the possibility of conception.
Jesus said, "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another." John 13:34
Yes, and part of helping others is helping them to live so s to be able to attain Heaven.
What mother would let a child stick a fork into an electrical socket? Wouldn't she forbid that, even if the child was very unhappy about it and did not understand why she wouldn't let him do that?
I'm not seeing this in the current Catholic Church. Jesus befriended strangers, sinners, the sick and the poor. He didn't say, "When you decide to do as I say, then you can come and hear me speak. If you do otherwise, I condemn you."
No one is saying that one cannot listen, and nothing you have written here is an example of that. But Christ did say: Go and sin no more. Christ did let His followers who couldn't handle His teaching leave Him. And Christ did let the rich man leave Him.
I didn't turn away from the Church, the Church turned away from me.
Oh, when was the time that the Church allowed divorced people to remarry, women to abort, people to use abc? Seems to me that you are the one rejecting Church teachings which have been around for a couple of thousand years. It's not like the Church suddenly put all this into place.