Originally Posted by foolishmortal
I think Catholics can be believers in what needs to be believed, but they can emphasize certain areas more than others. Some can cut corners where they can. Also, dissent is allowed in some areas. I think it may be getting away with what you can without being a heretic with some Catholics.
I believe that Catholics will be judged harsher than those who don’t have the Full Truth.
I believe all will be punished or rewarded according to what they accepted from the Holy Spirit by caring enough about the truth and what they did about it as well as how much time we spent on ourselves and on others in doing what we did with what we learned. But yes, we Catholics have been given the most. Nevertheless, some never learned much of anything from home or the parish. Some learned hard-core dissent even. Some come to the Faith, but by weak RCIA teaching.
The Flathead Indians’ receiving info. from God on the “Black Robes” (Jesuits) being the ones to listen to was made possible by God’s grace, but their responding in such a way that they had a moral theology very close to ours. Other tribes took to the Faith as well, but these ones were the first. It’s hard to hear if your church allows for contraception and divorce.
For example, the last Pope said that we can go to non-Catholic services. Ok. Technically, we can. The problem is, some may encourage it. Well, the other problem is that many Catholics don’t know their Faith. That makes them bait in more evangelical churches–esp. Catholic hating ones. I think it should be included that one should go only with certain precautions under under certain circumstances.
We can only go to Protestant services if it does not cause scandal to others.
I never heard that till some years ago.
The other is that non-Catholics can go to heaven. That could be possible. It’s very likely the girl at Columbine who died praying and willing to die for jesus is saved. There are blood and fire and what not as mitigating circumstances that we can’t know come into play until death. However, there are very difficult circumstances.
If they never had a reasonable exposure to the Truth of Catholic Teaching, I would expect that God would make allowances for that. I know that I would, and I’m not God.
If you are open to truth, you'll receive it. If you believe in what the Bible says, you cannot divorce or contracept. I don't know where these EWTN find all these Protestants that out us to shame by their Biblical knowledge, but I've worked with quite a few and they admit not knowing all that much. If this were a triumphalistic period in Catholic history, I could understand the humbling of us to our deficits, but I think we could use more building up other than that we have the fulness of the Faith. The apologies to other Faiths was not that great either WHEN the last Pope did it. We got hit by the priest scandals and a lot of Catholics are confused and severely put out. I think a lot of Catholics voted Democrat thinking the war was worse than abortion and such. I think the current Pope needs to reign in a feel-good era. That's my opinion.
Many churches allow for divorces–something the Bible says doesn’t exist.
Not the Catholic Church
That was my point.
They are allowing so many things that the Bible prohibits in more “moderate” churches. If the Bible is your source of info. You are responsible for what it says.
Are you infallible?
If you criticize another’s Christian Faith based on the Bible, I think you are responsible for what it really says. I know I’ll be accountable for stupid stuff I’ve said. Some holy people can’t be saints for things like that–and that’s a penalty by earthly judges (though when one is declared a saint, he/she is a saint). I probably shouldn’t be coming here, but I do come for knowledge also (not that it’s right)
If you have your pastor interpret it for you,
Is he infallible?
If all are to read the Bible for themselves and come to all this knowledge via the Holy Spirit, why have any sermon at a non-Catholic Christian church or why ask him/her for advice on Scripture? That was my point.
why not join the Catholics or Orthodox? Jesus talks about Hell and says those who say “Jesus Jesus” don’t necessarily make it in to heaven. It says if you don’t feed the hungry, visit the imprisoned, and/or etc., you’ll be separated from the sheep. Unfortunately, once saved, always saved is heralded above those passages and it’s not even in the Bible. They aren’t the only ones. Catholics know that we are not saved for good for just believing in Jesus as our Savior and Redeemer.