2351 Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes.
2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."137 “The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose.” For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."138
9 He knowing that the children should not be his, when he went in to his brother’s wife, spilled his seed upon the ground, lest children should be born in his brother’s name. 10 And therefore the Lord slew him, because he did a detestable thing
I see my post did make it though my browser locked up I will delete my cloned topic later.
However the think about that is I believe you are talking about Onan or whatever his name is, what he did is far different then masturbation.
he had sex with his brothers wife while he was suppose to be making a child for his brothers wife to continue his blood, but he refused to ejackulate in her, so basically he was having sex with his brothers wife and birth controling it.
So thats commiting adultery not masturbation, because he was getting sex off of someone elses life but refusing to get her preganate like he was suppose to.
So thats alot different then masturbation not only is it adultery but its not self pleasure, which masturbation is, but I can see the whole thing about the self pleasure you said at the begging.
Scripture condemns the practice when it mentions it. Once a moral principle has been established in the Bible, every possible application of it need not be mentioned. For example, the general principle that theft is wrong was clearly established in Scripture; but there’s no need to provide an exhaustive list of every kind of theft
Apparently, your priest has never read the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. “Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action.”
“The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose.” For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of “the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved.”
“Intrinsically and gravely disordered action” is Catechism-speak for “sin”.
2394 Christ is the model of chastity. Every baptized person is called to lead a chaste life, each according to his particular state of life.
2395 Chastity means the integration of sexuality within the person. It includes an apprenticeship in self-mastery.
2396 Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and homosexual practices.
2397 The covenant which spouses have freely entered into entails faithful love. It imposes on them the obligation to keep their marriage indissoluble.
2398 Fecundity is a good, a gift and an end of marriage. By giving life, spouses participate in God’s fatherhood.
2399 The regulation of births represents one of the aspects of responsible fatherhood and motherhood. Legitimate intentions on the part of the spouses do not justify recourse to morally unacceptable means (for example, direct sterilization or contraception).
Yes that is his Name. It comes from (Gen. 38:8–10).
You’re right what he did was called “Coitus interruptus”. “Coitus interruptus” means to withdrawal before ejaculation.
“Coitus Interruptus” is also a form of contraception known as “Onanism”.
The name “Onanism” gets its name from Onan. (It’s named after the man that practiced it.) Just like homosexuality has historically been known as “Sodomy,” after the men of Sodom. (Gen 19)
If you do a google search for “Onanism” you will see that masturbation is a form of “Onanism”.
You also might be interested to learn:
[quote=Judaism 101]Jewish law clearly prohibits male masturbation. This law is derived from the story of Onan (Gen. 38:8-10), who practiced coitus interruptus as a means of birth control to avoid fathering a child for his deceased brother. G-d killed Onan for this sin. Although Onan’s act was not truly masturbation, Jewish law takes a very broad view of the acts prohibited by this passage, and forbids any act of ha-sh’cha’tat zerah (destruction of the seed), that is, ejaculation outside of the vagina. In fact, the prohibition is so strict that one passage in the Talmud states, “in the case of a man, the hand that reaches below the navel should be chopped off.” (Niddah 13a) Source: click here
Christianity came from Judaism. The early Christians had the same views as this. The early Christians had the same broad view as this when it came to the passage of Onan.
That is why Masturbation is “historically” known as a form of Onanism.
In Catholicism Masturbation is considered to be “grave matter”. Things are “Grave Matter” if they go against the 10 commandments. Catholicism sees masturbation as going against one of the 10 commandments: Thou Shall not commit Adultery.
Grave Matter is 1 of the 3 things need to make something a “Mortal Sin”
In Catholicism for something to be a Mortal Sin 3 things are needed. 1) Grave Matter 2) Full knowledge and 3) deliberate consent.
Therefore, in Catholicism if a Catholic had FULL KNOWLEDGE that Masturbation IS GRAVE MATTER and DELIBRATELY and WILLFULLY masturbated they have committed a Mortal Sin and must go to confession.
Actually, I believe it is a grave sin, meaning that it is usually mortal, but could be mitigated to venial under certain specific circumstances (in this case, extreme immaturity / ignorance of youth or additction).
I wouldnt really consider masterbation sex per-se… I dont know. You are right about sex, ppl who need it are foolish but I always thought of masterbation as a necessary evil. Much like eating, sleeping, using the washroom etc.
me being a male, things can get very unpleasant if one goes too long w/o it. Cant think straight, hard to concetrate, irritability, finding women you wouldnt find attractive sexy etc.
For as unpleasant masterbation may be in retro-spec, it sure beats having to go out and having sex with everyone
I did include masturbation in my definition of sex - it isn’t necessary. Here’s a test - imagine you were in the middle of the act so to speak, and someone walked in on you, making you highly embarrassed. You’d stop what you were doing right away (at least I hope you would).
You wouldn’t continue and complete the act regardless because you allegedly simply couldn’t stop. Now if you can stop mid-act like that then you don’t need it. Simple.
Of course you’ll argue that you can cease eating or drinking in spite of the fact that you need to do those things. Difference being they literally ARE needs. You literally will die if you cease all eating and drinking. You won’t literally die or anything like if you ceased all sex and masturbation as of this minute. It’s a mere habit, and not a useful one at that.
lol I may very well be an addict but meh, aint harming no body:P I consider it more of a maintance thing than something for pleasure thou hehe
As for it being unacceptable outside, well that could be because of instincts/society. Ppl feel weird having sex outside and thats cause they are put in a vulnerable position. Imagine if our ansestors did it outside, theyd get eaten left and right!
As for nocternal emissions…well ever soil yourself? Yaa thats what its like, not very pleasant