I have 2 scenarios. are these mortal sins?

  1. so i just recently watched a movie which had alot of graphic images in it (note, not porn, but a movie like “Change Up”) and i wasnt turned on or anything by it, i just casually watched it, and it had no effect on leading me to do “bad things”, now is it a mortal sin or a venial sin?

  2. i accidentally opened porn, but again it didnt lead me to do “bad things” commonly associated with it, i actually found one of it very disgusting, and i quickly closed it. now, is this also a mortal sin?

(PS, i just need a yes or no, thank you very much … oh and “bad things” meaning masturbating xD)

I don’t know about #1.

#2. No. If it was** truly **accidental, than no.

You should confess to a Priest about these. I have a feeling he will tell you that neither were sins, and it might help you to find out one way or another.

if you knew it could potentially lead you to temptation and you still watched it, that would be a sin known as putting yourself into an “occasion of sin”. We should avoid occasions where we know we might be tempted. If you were not tempted, that’s good, but we shouldn’t put ourselves into these situations anyway. Watching these movies is not much different than porn, in the end, since they have so much impurity.

I would speak to a priest about this in Confession.

  1. i accidentally opened porn, but again it didnt lead me to do “bad things” commonly associated with it, i actually found one of it very disgusting, and i quickly closed it. now, is this also a mortal sin?

If you didn’t dwell on it and closed it, no mortal sin there. Mortal sin is a choice.

God bless :slight_smile:

I don’t see the sin in either. Not venial or mortal.

To make it Mortal Sin:

1.- Its subject must be a grave (or serious) matter.
2.- It must be committed with full knowledge, both of the sin and of the gravity of the offense (no one is considered ignorant of the principles of the moral law, which are inborn as part of human knowledge, but these principles can be misunderstood in a particular context).
3.- It must be committed with deliberate and complete consent, enough for it to have been a personal decision to commit the sin.

So, since #2 was not with your consent you are fine,

I agree with Monica on the Occasion of Sin for point #1. I don’t think one can come out of erotic images 100 % clean without a Lot of grace, since human mind can play tricky things after the image insertion. If you play with fire you are going to get burned :stuck_out_tongue:

Hi people :slight_smile: i also have a question in mind:
There’s this German Expression film called The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari. It’s about this hypnosist who wakes up a guy named Cesare (after 23 years of sleep) for a show, who can reveal the future of others when asked. And as part of the plot, mysterious murders happen around the city.

I knew this film had such themes beforehand. However the reason why i was watching it was primarily because of the artistic design of the film, and also for general entertainment.

So, is watching a film with themes like this sinful?

I can’t possibly imagine that it would be (although maybe I’m biased, because I recently wrote a paper for a class involving “Dr. Caligari”). I’m not sure if you’re concerned about the fortune-telling aspect or the murder plot, but neither are a cause for concern: There’s nothing even remotely admirable about anything that Dr. Caligari does in his show, and the murders themselves aren’t in anyway glamorized or glorified. The movie itself is basically a murder mystery mixed with a psychological thriller, and if “Dr. Caligari” was sinful, than a whole host of class books and movies, right down to Sherlock Holmes, would probably have to be chucked out too.

I’m not sure if this is completely relevant, but here’s a quote from Pope Pius XII about whether movies can validly portray evil:

To such a question a negative answer is natural, whenever perversity and evil are presented for their own sakes; if the wrongdoing represented is at least in fact, approved; if it is described in stimulating, insidious or corrupting ways; if it is shown to those who are not capable of controlling and resisting it.

But when none of these causes for exclusion are present; when the struggle with evil, and even its temporary victory, serves, in relation to the whole, to a deeper understanding of life and its proper ordering, of self-control, of enlightenment and strengthening of judgement and action; then such matter can be chosen and inserted, as a part of the whole action of the film. The same criterion applies here that must rule any like artistic medium: novel, drama, tragedy, every literary work. (source: vatican.va/holy_father/pius_xii/apost_exhortations/documents/hf_p-xii_exh_25101955_ideal-film_en.html)

We can quibble about the exact degree to which “Dr. Caligari” deepens our understanding of life and its proper ordering (and I would say that there’s at least something to be found there–a lot of the psychological themes are interesting, especially in the post-World War I context in which the movie is made, and most especially if you consider that the movie actually reflects a lot of the debates going on in the public sphere about psychological practices…but now I’m rambling :slight_smile: ). But there’s nothing about it that in any way glorifies the murders or the evil.

It might be sinful if the murders were presented in a needlessly gruesome fashion, but that’s definitely NOT the case; I don’t even think that you see a murder on screen in the whole movie. It also might be problematic if you were watching the movie specifically to be titillated by the depiction of evil, but from what you said, that’s clearly not the case either. So I don’t see how this could be a sin, at least for this particular movie.

(And for what it’s worth, the Vatican actually put another German Expressionist Horror Film–“Nosferatu,” which, for my money, is even better than “Dr. Caligari”–on their Top 45 Films List, so it clearly doesn’t have any issue with horror movies per se.)

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