Idaho School Teachers Dress as Mexican Stereotypes, Border Wall


#184

I suspect that’s why they just got a slap on the wrist. They were probably directed to do this. They should have said “no”, so the sensitivity training is probably appropriate. This photo is out there now and will probably follow those teachers around for the rest of their career.


#185

That wasn’t part of the activity.


#186

That photo is clearly posed.


#187

So they aren’t stereotyping, they’re just…portraying stereotypes? Are you being serious right now?

Link please!

Oh, I can only imagine what that conversation was like! “Hey! In order to understand how bad stereotyping is, let’s have fun stereotyping!” Really, if that were the intent, I’m baffled that no one raised their hand and said, “Maybe we shouldn’t stereotype in an exercise meant to show how bad it is!”

As it stands now, though, this is sounding like the equivalent of telling someone to masturbate to porn as an exercise to emphasize how bad porn is.

No, I’m not. I’m saying that this was an absolutely horrible way to do this. It embraces the very thing that they’re trying to teach is wrong.

Honestly, the more I read, the more confused I get. You’re claiming that they weren’t trying to stereotype, but at the same time you’re saying that they were dressing up as stereotypes as a way of making a point. You’re also claiming that this was necessary to make that point all while ignoring that this goes against the point supposedly being made. Maybe consider that I’m having trouble comprehending because you aren’t being consistent.

Initially, I figured that this was just ignorant fun. Tell them why it is bad and move on.

Now you’ve presented a backstory that shows that they knew it was wrong but did it anyways. I shouldn’t have to explain why that is much worse than them being ignorant.


#188

I have actually seen no evidence that this was any kind of activity to promote cultural sensitivity by denouncing stereotyping. Where have you heard this information?


#189

You’re entitled to your opinion. I disagree, and these type of team activities are not uncommon. I’ve seen a lot more controversial in colleges and schools, but I’m also from a very progressive state.


#190

A teacher from the school who took part in the team building activity posted a response on Facebook. Also, If you google “team building activity, Idaho teachers, wall” you’ll see there are also numerous stories/reports regarding such.


#191

I never said they weren’t. I said that they handled it horribly.

That doesn’t make it right.


#192

You know a lot of your co-workers would be relieved you were there to say that, because they wouldn’t.
It is always good to have some people at meetings who are both frank and sensible, but that’s not all of the teachers. Some try to just be good sports and do the activity, particularly if the activities are almost never useful.
If the sensible ones always get put down by some dingbat in the administration who is personally invested in charging ahead with a bad idea, then sometimes another bad idea for how to spend an inservice day just goes forward, with or without the participation of the sensible few who put a foot down and refuse to do it.


#193

I did use those search terms, but only came up with claims that it was a “team-building activity.” I’m skeptical of hearsay from a single teacher. If it was actually legitimate and justified sensitivity training, why on earth is the school district penalizing them with . . . . . . sensitivity training?


#194

The staff members who were photographed were selected as winners of a contest to determine who could most accurately portray a country based on stereotypes, according to the Idaho Press. It was a team building activity based on country stereotypes and the teachers were to talk about the negative effects of country stereotyping and role play. I don’t see any reason to not believe the teachers and what they have said, and what they have posted about this, as well others who collaborate the same, there was more than 1 teacher. Personally, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and take them on their word instead of being skeptical of them, especially when the stories are all the same from all involved even those who didn’t dress up as Mexicans or the wall.


#195

Unfortunately, to me this does not seem like an unlikely scenario at all. It is the life of a teacher, in some places.


#196

No, your link doesn’t say this at all.

In the off-chance this is true, what did they have in mind for Martin Luther King Day? Everyone dressing up as Sambo to prove some point about racism against African-Americans? :worried:

Teachers have plenty of opportunities to discuss racism and cultural sensitivity in their workshops and in-services. Making a political statement at a holiday party on the taxpayer’s dime was clearly inappropriate, unprofessional, and in poor taste.


#197

The one link I posted says it was a country stereotyping team building activity. The teachers have commented further about the team building activity. Do you really think the country stereotyping team building activity was to poke fun or talk about the positive effects of country stereotyping? If you don’t like how the team building activity was structured or setup then fine. However, this wasn’t a political stance - some of teachers don’t support the wall per their own words. You can try to twist this if you want but this wasn’t something the teachers did because they are insensitive, because of racial hatred, or to offend or bully anyone in the community. These teachers completed an assignment for their team building meeting on Halloween, where you dress up, I’m pretty sure people don’t dress up on Martin Luther King Day. No “blackface” no unfounded comments about white men shooting up the place.


#198

Consider it a homecoming game! :slight_smile:


#199

Too many people react way too sensitively. By the way, the only groups that everybody is allowed to actually ridicule without restraint, according to the custodians of the “politically correct” culture, are Catholics (and often other Christians) and southerners.
Food for thought: I saw a survey in which Americans of Indian descent are the group that most thinks there’s too much “political correctness”. Keep this in mind whenever a positive good nickname like “Warriors” is attacked.


#200

No more than anyone else’s opinion on here that it wasn’t funny is relevant. Nor does it make your opinion of salmon’s post relevant.

So since the topic is rife with different opinions of Catholics, shall we just close the topic and all similar topics?


#201

Is calling yourself ‘beto’ when your real name is Robert stereotyping Mexicans?


#202

How is promoting the reasonable control of the US border bigoted?

OK. That’s valid

How is controlling one’s borders licitly and within the rights of a sovereign state xenophobic?

See questions regarding bigotry and xenophobia…


#203

Controlling the border is in no way comparable to killing an unborn child.

CCC on borders
Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions (IE, a border wall, border patrol, and other methods of control), especially with regard to the immigrants’ duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws, and to assist in carrying civic burdens (CCC 2241).

CCC on abortion
Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law: (CCC 2271)


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