If all people are from adam and eve, who would kill Abel in the wild?


#1

Genesis 4:18-17 and where did Cain’s wife came from. . .? Can anyone share some light. .
Or is that genesis, is just an illustration of what might have happened and not Fact?


#2

Catholics aren’t required to believe the creation story told in the Book of Genesis is literal. So, starting from there… your question requiring “Facts” is breaking down, what are you trying to logic your way into really?


#3

Ok . Firstly i did not know that genesis is not to be considered a true story. .
And what i’m try to understand is where did the next group of people came from. . Did the almighty create more people to merge with adam and eve after the fall?


#4

I believe Adam & Eve had more kids than just Cain & Abel, then their kids had kids and so on. People can multiply pretty quickly. In about 13-15years the next generation was born and so on and each person could have like 6-10 kids. So if Adam & Eve had 10 or more kids and each of those kids had 6-10 kids 13-15yrs later, people can multiply pretty quickly by the time Cain was like 30yrs old so it could have been any of his nieces, or cousins. There was no such thing as waiting till you’re 18yrs old to get married back then. :wink: I know someone who had 6 kids and 30 grandkids and imagine those 30 grandkids each having 6-10 kids of their own. And that’s today with people waiting till the age of 18. So imagine people starting at 14yrs old. So they multiplied pretty quickly back then then split off into their own little groups.


#5

We will not have all the answers in this life. That is why faith is so important.


#6

The genetic defects this process implies explains many of our politicians .


#7

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:


#8

tsstrong728…can you give an offical church source proving your claim that catholics arent required to believe in adam and eve?


#9

He didn’t say “catholics aren’t required to believe in adam and eve.” He said: “Catholics aren’t required to believe the creation story told in the Book of Genesis is literal.” There is a sea of difference between the two.

As for an official source:
390 The account of the fall in Genesis 3 uses figurative language, but affirms a primeval event, a deed that took place at the beginning of the history of man. Revelation gives us the certainty of faith that the whole of human history is marked by the original fault freely committed by our first parents. (emphasis added)

Catechism of the Catholic Church

vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s2c1p7.htm


#10

:cool: If I remember the bible, God put a mark on Cain’s head so that those who encountered him would slay him.It says that he took refuge in the Land of Nod,and it was there he found a wife. This says that there were other peoples around. Therefore, since the Jews are the chosen people,or consider themselves as such, Adam and Eve were considered to be the founders of the jewish race. God could have very well made others in His image,but Adam and Eve were the founding ancestors of the Hebrews. Look at it that way,and it will make some sense maybe.


#11

This actually wouldn’t make sense. Adam and Eve are the founders not of the Hebrews but of the entire human race–that is why we *all *inherit Original Sin.

The Jews were all the descendants of Isaac, who was of course a descendant od Adam and Eve, but there were many other people around by then who were also their descendants,


#12

Genesis only mentions three children of Adam and Eve: Cain, Abel, and Seth. But they certainly would have had to have more than that (including some girls!).


#13

The Bible states that in the beginning of human history that men (and women )
lived hundreds of years. Hence Adam and Eve could have had many other
descendants. It makes sense , that as sin became more prevalent on earth
that the health and life-expectancy were greatly diminished over time .


#14

A possible answer to this - assuming God used some sort of evolutionary process to create humankind - is that a biological progenitor (genetically identical) to human beings existed in large numbers and God “endowed” two of those individuals with rational free will. The others would be available to procreate but God would only further endow with reason and free will the genetic descendents of Adam and Eve.

This explanation would also serve to shed light to the term “sons of God” used in the book of Genesis and elsewhere in the Bibke to, possibly, refer to those humans who retained the character of their “endowed” rational nature in the image of God.

This is only ONE possible explanation and not to be taken as a definitive answer.


#15

Given that God created Adam (and that Eve was formed directly from Adam’s rib), I think it would be safe to assume that Adam and Eve’s genetic codes, at least, were not defective. Any defects in the human genetic code would have come about as a result of mutations over time, and my guess is that for the first several generations of humans, there weren’t enough mutations yet for their effects to even become manifest.

We each have two sets of 23 chromosomes (one set from each parent). Since each set of chromosomes has the same set of genes, this means that we have two copies of most every gene. What is important for making us each unique is that the copies we get from one parent can be very different than the copy we get from the other. Having two copies of everything is actually a really great system. This is because if one copy is broken, we still have a second copy to use as back up.

But, people with one bad gene copy can still pass it down to their kids. If, for example, a woman is a carrier for a broken gene, then she has a 50% chance of passing down this broken version to her child. This doesn’t normally matter so much, because as long as she finds a father with two healthy copies, then their children will always be sure to get at least one healthy copy. But if the father is also a carrier for the same broken gene, then each of their children will have a 25% chance of inheriting that gene.

Of course, not everyone is a carrier for every defective gene. And the command to “go forth and multiply” (assuming it were nearly universally followed) would have helped to ensure a certain level of genetic diversity by the time the third or fourth generation came along.


#16

“Bibke?” Gotta love autocorrected spelling, especially when it doesn’t work. What’s a Bibke?


#17

Ahem.:nerd: Correction:

Adam lived eight hundred years after he begot Seth, and he had other sons and daughters.
(Genesis 5:4)


#18

The mark was so that others would not kill him.

This is the first man to be saved by God, the first salvation of a sinner. The mark is a figure of our Baptism.

-Tim-


#19

The land of Nod was close to the garden Eden, and by certain bible verses, we already know there was other tribes in the area, some were mostly black people, some were not, and was probably scattered around the planet by then too, but apparently this topic is banned for some reason…??


#20

This explanation would also serve to shed light to the term “sons of God” used in the book of Genesis and elsewhere in the Bibke to, possibly, refer to those humans who retained the character of their “endowed” rational nature in the image of God.

This is only ONE possible explanation and not to be taken as a definitive answer.

It is Catholic teaching that all mankind descended from one set of parents. As I understand it, geneticists have verified this through their studies. Pope Pius X in Humanae Generis papalencyclicals.net/Pius12/P12HUMAN.HTM says it is to be believed by all Catholics. Otherwise, as another poster stated, the doctrine of original sin is eroded.

The “sons of God” are those of the line of Seth, those who remained faithful, the “sons of men” were those who lived according to the flesh.


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