[quote=Karin]And based on your earlier post it looks like you would tell them IVF was OK. Which is totally the wrong answer to give people, if they asked IMHO!
Yes I understand. To be honest that’s not really the idea I was trying to get across. If I were confronted with this situation, I would pass on what I have learned. I would try and do it is an atmosphere of discussion- of learning, and try to demonstrate the reasons why.
People who have been through this sort of nightmare don’t need to be condemned, they need love and support (just my opinion). If I knew that someone was going through this I would not try and foister my opinions on them, but I might well attempt to engage them in discussion and gently introduce the Churches position. Make any sense?
[quote=Karin]How bad of an example can you be? You teach the catechism (is that not a good thing?)
I think it is important to live that example more than profess it. If you are living well and understand life a little, this is (in my experience) obvious to others and they approach you to benefit from your wisdom (which is a form of compliment and carries responsibility on its own)
[quote=Karin]What I am trying to figure out is when do other Catholics say enough abuse, enough of indivuals playing God , enough of people making their own rules etc.?
For me, when it starts to effect others. If you are part of a Church community then we are all brothers and sisters and this sort of transaction takes place in a very natural way.
I don’t find that people make up their own rules. I find that I often misjudge people based on my own short-sightedness, and that is something I try to avoid.
[quote=Karin]Is their not a higher calling when you become or are a Catholic- a higher calling in regards to the WHOLE CHURCH or is everyone still stuck in their ME MODE? Is not everyone supposed to help their brothers and sisters in their faith to grow in it and PRACTICE it correctly?
Absolutely, but you lead a horse to water- doesn’t necessarily mean it will drink. Tend the garden and allow the holy spirit to work the magic. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.