[quote="Orogeny, post:15, topic:201283"]
I agree 100% with the Arizona law. I just think that it is a mistake to continually point out this type of crime as examples of why we need to secure our borders when the same crime committed by a citizen or legal resident would likely not even be commented on in this forum.
Because it is the POLITICAL FORUM. The place to discuss these things. The ruling and the illegal justified it's location in this forum. I posted that an illegal raped a woman. Had I not posted it, you would likely have never heard of it. If it had been an American raping this woman in Reno, neither you or I would have heard of it. The fact that he is illegal, he raped a woman and the woman was paralyzed made me post this story. I'm not going to apologize for that. It is not a mistake to point out "this type of crime", it is exactly just another reason why we need to secure the borders.
I think a case could be made that this guy, illegal status and all, would not have committed this crime if he had been in an effective treatment program for his mental issues. The fact that he is illegal would still be an issue and he should be returned to his country of origin, but at least the rape would not have taken place. I understand that if he had been deported, the same result would have occurred, but my point is that the crimes he committed (rape and spousal abuse) are much worse than the other crime he committed (entering the country illegally). I think making an issue of his immigration status diminishes the severity of his other crimes.
This is not a this or that crime. They stack, he is an illegal who raped a woman. To call him an illegal rapist didn't sound right, to call him a rapist takes away from the fact he's an illegal. I established the heinous crime he committed in the first thread, and I wanted to call him an illegal beyond that.
I originally replied to this thread only because bbarrick8383 claimed that he wouldn't want that illegal living next to him. No mention of the infinately worse crimes he is guilty of.
They are mentioned in the article which is at the link in the first post of this thread that **I **started.
What's sad is the direction this thread has taken. If I were not mistaken I'd think we have some ACLU trolls on the forums.