I'm a 15 year old trad. I have a problem 🙁

Hello, I’m 15 year old traditional catholic teenager. I spend my leisure time in Reading “The Spiritual combat” and “Introduction to devout life” with the aim of becoming holy. My father is a hindu and my mom is a catholic. They are saying that reading these books is too much for a 15 year old, and they say it is unnecessary. Am I wrong? Are the books too complex for a 15 year old? Should I stop reading them? Please help me.

Obedience to parents is meritorious. Accept the cross, and read something else. Maybe begin memorizing the Psalter and Wisdom books of the Bible. Trust me, that comes in handy later. These books are not necessary to read, but obeying authority is one of their messages. Follow it and get the grace.

Authority is the moral capacity given by God to someone to obligate a subject to do something. It doesn’t have to be wise in your eyes, make sense, etc, as long as it is not sinful, it is best to follow it. God loves when it is done. Parents have natural authority over children.

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My Catholic mother once called me a fanatic for wearing a scapular and a miraculous metal as a teenager. Never stop challenging yourself to do better. Read what you want so long as it’s not damaging like porn.

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Not to be a dude, but content rule 11: “Do not give advice to a minor that opposes the instruction of a parent or legal guardian.”

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They just said that reading those books is not necessary. They didn’t outright forbid it.

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At 15, you should obey your parents. There are many, many quotes from saints on how meritorius obedience is; I’ll bet you can find a lot of them by using google.

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  1. Love your parents. Even if your father doesn’t believe, calling him a ‘pagan’ sounds quite strong and disrespectful to me. Obey them when you don’t like what they tell you. Study and give them joy. We only have two parents and we must treat them well and foster our relationship with them as much as we can.

  2. Reading good things is always good. The books you mention are good. Are they too much for a 15 year old? It depends on which 15 year old. I read crime and punishment at that age (by the way, great book if you haven’t read it yet). Only remember that when you’re reading spiritual books, you must read them slowly, in little chunks, and spend time reflecting on what you read and how do you apply it into your own life. But if your parents told you not to read those books, put them aside and read them when you’re older. A book that I enjoyed at your age was “The way”, by St. Jose Maria Escriva. Open it wherever you want, read an easy little thought in less than a minute and reflect. It’s great.

  3. However, being holy doesn’t consist on reading difficult books. It consists on doing the will of God to the best of our abilities. And when I say to the best, I really mean to the best.

  4. If I were you, I’d also stop labeling myself as a ‘traditional’ and just leave the ‘catholic’ label. You’re either catholic or you’re not, regardless of your preference of some kind of external liturgy over another. Your heart is what really matters.

  5. It’s great to know that a young person is trying to search God. Don’t give up and be very patient with yourself.

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Not the least of which is this strong passage in Sirach:

{3:2} Sons, listen to the judgment of your father, and act accordingly, so that you may be saved.
{3:3} For God has honored the father in the sons, and, when seeking the judgment of the mother, he has confirmed it in the children.
{3:4} He who loves God will plead with him on behalf of sins, and will keep himself away from sin, and will be heeded in the prayers of his days.
{3:5} And, like one who stores up treasure, so also is he who honors his mother.
{3:6} He who honors his father will find happiness in his own children, and he will be heeded in the day of his prayer.
{3:7} He who honors his father will live a long life. And he who obeys his father will be a refreshment to his mother.
{3:8} He who fears the Lord honors his parents, and he will serve them as masters, for it is they who conceived him.
{3:9} In word and deed, and in all things, honor your father with patience,
{3:10} so that a blessing may come to you from him, and so that his blessing may remain to the very end.
{3:11} The blessing of the father strengthens the houses of the sons; but the curse of the mother uproots even its foundation.
{3:12} Do not boast in the disgrace of your father; for his shame is not your glory.
{3:13} For the glory of a man is from the honor of his father, and a father without honor is a discredit to the son.
{3:14} Son, support your father in his old age, and do not grieve him in his life.
{3:15} And if his mind should fail, show kindness; and do not spurn him when you are in your strength. For almsgiving to the father will never be forgotten.
{3:16} For even in return for the sin of the mother, good will be repaid to you.
{3:17} And you will be built up in justice, and you will be remembered in the day of tribulation. And your sins will dissolve like ice in warm weather.
{3:18} What an evil form has he who forsakes his father! And whoever exasperates his mother is accursed by God.

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I was in a similar situation when I was your age. They may be right, or they might be wrong. Your job as a minor is to obey your parents, and that will gain you much more holiness than reading holy books, and St. Francis de Sales would agree.

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https://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a4.htm

Seems pretty clear.

They said “too much” in your words. I wouldn’t necessarily interpret that as too complex. They may be asking you to balance your life a bit more.

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My guess is that this ^ is what your parents are talking about when they say ‘It’s not necessary’. I would agree if that’s indeed what they mean.

That is to say, reading those books isn’t going to make you become holy. It may not even help. And it’s definitely not necessary.

As a minor, you need to obey your parents.

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If they aren’t forbidding you from reading them, then please continue to do so. It sounds like they just don’t think it’s a good idea. But if they directly tell you to stop, obedience to them comes first :slight_smile:

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Exactly! They want me to do it. But the problem is my parents are really *protestanized * . My mom never encouraged us to learn catechism. She rejects the sacrament of confession. I’m not proud but I will say this too : Never my mother, or my brother willingly prayed the holy rosary, unless I wanted them to come and pray with me. They say that more than rosary our own prayers help us a lot. They label it as “Formal, written prayers” All these years I received communion in a state of mortal sin and I committed a sacrilege for 6 years or more… After my first reconciliation I never attended confession again. Even I was not taught to do that when I was young. My mom even wants me to go to the HINDU TEMPLE TO WORSHIP with my dad, to satisfy him. They labele as extremist if I resist to go to a hindu temple. I love and I obey them. But my situation is more pathetic.

So is it theological works that they are worried about you reading?

Perhaps the concern you will start reading something like the Summa Theologica spending so much time studying theology that your grades will suffer?

If so then it sounds like Catholic works aren’t off the table perhaps read something lighter like the lives of the Saints like The Life of St Anthony by St Athanasius, The Life of St Benedict by St Gregory the Great, or The Life of St Francis of Assisi by St Bonaventure.

You could even read works written by Catholics such Tolkiens Hobbit and Lord of the Rings.

My advice pray the rosary yourself don’t pressure your family to do anything your drawing attention to yourself by irritating them.

Some people think a Catholic believing and doing what Catholics do and are supposed to do are fanatical.

If you can go to confession in an outing on a bike ride by yourself then do so.

You are required to obey your parents to a point just like everyone is required to obey the government to a point.

Ultimately God comes first if you don’t want to receive sacrilegious communion then don’t take communion the worst that happens is your mother grounds you which you can offer up for the reparation of your sins and they stop going to Church.

Same with worshipping false gods go with your father but don’t worship false gods the worst they can do is ground you and take your Catholic stuff away.

You still have your fingers to count the rosary you can still look up prayers online.

So be discreet but respect and resist in some areas when you have to.

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The other side of this is that the sin of sacrilegious communion or idolatry really falls on your parents.

Please do not receive communion in a state of mortal sin. It is better to not receive the physical communion if you are.
“St. Paul urges us to examine our conscience: “Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself.”” Instead you can do a spiritual communion:),

"My Jesus,
I believe that You are present in the Most Holy Sacrament.
I love You above all things,
and I desire to receive You into my soul.
Since I cannot at this moment receive You sacramentally,
come at least spiritually into my heart.
I embrace You as if You were already there
and unite myself wholly to You.
Never permit me to be separated from You.

Amen."
I am so sorry your parents have denied you of the sacrament of confession:(

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Also any punishment you received unjustly you can offer up for the conversion of those persons in this case your parents.

You could even tell them your doing that and bearing your cross for them they actually might leave you alone after that realizing anything they do to you will be offered up to the one true God.

Obviously you want to be humble in all this and I don’t encourage you to go out of your way to annoy your family with martyrdom.

But just know whatever you suffer you suffer for Christ and His glory.

Love and respect your parents go to Mass but don’t receive communion and go to the temple with your Dad but don’t pray to his god’s or offer incense.

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