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[/LIST]It is very common in the forum for people to accuse critics of President Obama of racism. It is unproductive and as a general rule not allowed in the forum.


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If your topic doesn’t fit criteria for any forum, try the [forum=77]Back Fence[/forum] - a mix of the ridiculous and sublime, or [forum=76]The Clubhouse[/forum] - chat there is light, but can be educational

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With these choices, everyone should find a forum to meet their needs. Enjoy yourself, and use the [forum=95]Suggestion Box[/forum] to let us know what we can do to make your experience better.

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*]Robert Bay Secular News, War on Terror and Politics 2008
*]Walt Oliver Social Justice & Catholic News
*]Zelie Louis Family Life & Parenting[/LIST]

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