I am in a discussion about praying to saints and was wondering if someone could help me clear some things up. I gave this person what the CA library says about “praying to the dead” and this was his response jsut wondering if you guys had any thoughts on what he said.
CA Library: Sometimes Fundamentalists object to asking our fellow Christians in heaven to pray for us by declaring that God has forbidden contact with the dead in passages such as Deuteronomy 18:10–11. In fact, he has not, because he at times has given it—for example, when he had Moses and Elijah appear with Christ to the disciples on the Mount of Transfiguration (Matt. 17:3).
**He said: ** And notice that nowhere in this account do the disciples ever try to contact them.
CA Library: What God has forbidden is necromantic practice of conjuring up spirits. “There shall not be found among you any one who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, any one who practices divination, a soothsayer, or an augur, or a sorcerer, or a charmer, or a medium, or a wizard, or a necromancer. . . . For these nations, which you are about to dispossess, give heed to soothsayers and to diviners; but as for you, the Lord your God has not allowed you so to do. The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your brethren—him you shall heed” (Deut. 18:10–15).
He said So then, if you admit that God has condemned this practice, why do you insist on doing it?
CA Library: God thus indicates that one is not to conjure the dead for purposes of gaining information; one is to look to God’s prophets instead.
He said: When Mary allegedly appears at Fatima, Medjegure or various Mexican food items, does she not give information?
Do Roman Catholics not pray to Mary to deliver messages from God?
CA Library Thus one is not to hold a seance. But anyone with an ounce of common sense can discern the vast qualitative difference between holding a seance to have the dead speak through you and a son humbly saying at his mother’s grave, “Mom, please pray to Jesus for me; I’m having a real problem right now.”
He said: First of all, why would you pray to a dead person, anyway?
Second, why not just pray to God?
CA Library: The difference between the two is the difference between night and day. One is an occult practice bent on getting secret information; the other is a humble request for a loved one to pray to God on one’s behalf.
He said: Both are occult practices.
Ultimately he wants scriptural references about praying to the saints (obviously other then what CA library provided) so just wondering if anyone could lend any help.