[quote="Matthewmatt, post:1, topic:262381"]
My friend used to be a sorta of borderline atheist/lutheran now he is closer to Christianity and ive been talking to him about abortion. He understands that its bad but he always uses abortion in the case of incest to argue with me. Were in highschool and he himself gets bullied alot sorta and he tells me that if this kid were to live people would pick on him and the kid would have to deal with all this suffering through no fault of his own if people found out his grandfather was his dad or something. I tell him well how do you even know that will happen but are some more good rebuttals.
Does your friend wish he had been aborted because he gets bullied in school? How is your friend doing by the way? If he gets bullied or something, and he is saying these things, keep that in mind. I will be praying for the both of you to be supportive of each other and to be joyful. That is the most important thing, to be joyful about life. Christ died so that our joys may be complete. No matter how much a person suffers, God loves them in their suffering. Joy does not consist in avoiding suffering. It consists in knowing that one is loved by God, and that He is preparing each of us for greater joys when we always trust Him and act in accordance with what He teaches us, which is the supreme law of love. Be there for your friend, and if people continue to bully him, be there for him even more. One of my close friends was actually threatened by a bunch of punks at school yesterday. Don't you think I would be a really silly friend if I had said to him "Oh dear, I am so sorry! It's a shame you weren't aborted in the womb! Then you never would have had to experience all this suffering you are dealing with now! I'm so sorry for you! Maybe I can save up my money and buy a pistol for you so that you can end your misery!"
Do you get the point of how ridiculous the arguments your friend is entertaining are? Tell him that. What would he think if you said something like that to him when people were mistreating him?
Does this help at all?