Info on Mortification


#1

During my confession last night, the priest suggested that I practice some mortification. I checked the catechism, but didn't find much info. Anyone feeling generous enough to give me a crash course?

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#2

OK, I'll jump in.

My understanding of mortification is that it is some sort self-denial of self-discipline. Examples would be
fasting (from food altogether, from salt & pepper at a meal, etc.);
denying one's self ordinary pleasures such as television, radio, internet, or video games - especially if one replaced the thing with a holy occupation such as prayer or holy reading.

I'm very uncomfortable with Adoration so that's my go-to mortification.

Whenever you are confused by a penance imposed by a priest in confession you should ask for clarification before you leave: "Father, I'm not sure what that means," or "Father, can you give me some examples of mortifications I could do?"

May God bless you and keep you.

Peace.


#3

Thanks Mary Ellen,

If I may ask, how often do you practice Adoration as mortification.

I’m sort of unsure how best to determine severity and duration, I have some ideas, but so far they all strike me as silly.

To clarify, this wasn’t my penance. Lately I’ve been getting bonuses like these where they’ll suggest ways to add or augment my prayer life and then for my penance I get something else. I guess it makes sense; I think every priest would recommend to say a daily rosary, but you couldn’t really have your penance be a rosary for every day of the rest of your life.


#4

[quote="ActingCatholic, post:3, topic:327508"]
Thanks Mary Ellen,

If I may ask, how often do you practice Adoration as mortification.

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Actually, if I eat meat on a Friday I try to use Adoration as my alternate form of penance/mortification for the day. Also, if I don't go to confession one week (I generally go weekly), I try to go to Adoration sometime the following week.


#5

Sounds awesome! I didn’t really put two and two together, but I’m also looking for a good way to fulfill my Friday obligation (as I only recently learned that I had one outside of Lent), so maybe the mortification can serve that as well.


#6

How can adoration be a mortification?


#7

If you read the Lives of the Saints, you find other mortifications.

  1. You could sleep without a blanket or a sheet.
  2. Drink water only, instead of coffee, tea, etc.
  3. You might sleep on the floor or on your couch rather than on your bed.
  4. You could dress warmer or cooler than the weather demands.
  5. You could refrain from fancy or very tasty foods, instead eating bland foods, such as rice or oatmeal without additives.
  6. You could give up alcoholic beverages for a time, probably not forever.
  7. You could dress more modestly than you usually do.
  8. You could wear unflattering clothes, rather than your best clothes.

#8

Thanks Brian, this is very helpful as well.

Is public witness something that should be taken under consideration for penance and/or mortification? For example, if I’m sleeping without a blanket, no one knows, and it seems like that would make it less than say abstaining from meat, which also happens in the public sphere. Am I missing the boat?


#9

Actually, if I eat meat on a Friday I try to use Adoration as my alternate form of penance/mortification for the day.

can someone explain what is meant by Adoration ?


#10

Your mortifications are supposed to be a personal and intimate gift to God. It is possible, through clothing and public humiliations, to make these humiliations a gift to God as well.
Keep it for Him.


#11

Adoration is when the blessed sacrament is put on the altar to venerate.


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[quote="ActingCatholic, post:1, topic:327508"]
During my confession last night, the priest suggested that I practice some mortification. I checked the catechism, but didn't find much info. Anyone feeling generous enough to give me a crash course?

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#14

venerate

*"respect, honour, esteem, revere, worship, adore, reverence,

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Says it all for me! :thumbsup:


#15

[quote="ajecphotos, post:11, topic:327508"]
Adoration is when the blessed sacrament is put on the altar to venerate.

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That is what I thought it meant, I was not sure though, so with that in mind, why would Adoration be considered a form of Mortification ?

When Mortification seems to suggest some kind of going with out something that may be pleasurable or to indure some kind of hardship.

I do not understand how Adoration of the blessed sacrament can be considered a type of mortification, can someone elaborate.


#16

One idea:
During your private prayer time, commit to a certain amount of time praying with your arms extended, or kneeling on the hard floor, or both. Start small, like five minutes of your prayer time per day. Remember that mortification is a prayerful offering to Jesus, an expiation for our sins or for the sins of others. Be mindful that these acts have a purpose; we unite ourselves in small ways to Jesus's suffering on the cross.

"Let us lift up our hearts as well as our hands toward God in heaven." (Lamentations 3:41)


#17

[quote="john78, post:15, topic:327508"]
That is what I thought it meant, I was not sure though, so with that in mind, why would Adoration be considered a form of Mortification ?

When Mortification seems to suggest some kind of going with out something that may be pleasurable or to indure some kind of hardship.

I do not understand how Adoration of the blessed sacrament can be considered a type of mortification, can someone elaborate.

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"We bring the sacrifice of praise unto the House of the Lord!" Praise (even adoration) of God is a sacrifice. Why? Because selfishness is the rule of the flesh, and praising another, esp. God, is therefore a sacrifice.


#18

As I said, for me Adoration is a form of mortification. This is because Adoration for more than 10 or 15 minutes is difficult for me - I have a hard time sitting still in the quiet; I get antsy, I don't know what to do, I don't know what to say to my Lord, I don't feel worthy to sit in His Presence, etc., etc. Adoration may be a beautiful and peaceful time for many, many people - for me it is very difficult but I do it anyways.


#19

[quote="Mary_Ellen, post:18, topic:327508"]
As I said, for me Adoration is a form of mortification. This is because Adoration for more than 10 or 15 minutes is difficult for me - I have a hard time sitting still in the quiet; I get antsy, I don't know what to do, I don't know what to say to my Lord, I don't feel worthy to sit in His Presence, etc., etc. Adoration may be a beautiful and peaceful time for many, many people - for me it is very difficult but I do it anyways.

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Why dont you buy a book on an hour with Jesus / Holy Hour?

It will have prayers etc in it. I am going to buy one myself.


#20

I had a few more recommended to me:
At the end of your shower turn the water full cold long enough to say 3 Glory be…;
If you are eating at a restaurant, pick the thing you like best on the menu and then order something else;
Put a small piece of gravel in your shoe (enough to irritate but not injure yourself) and walk for a while;
Let your coffee get cold then drink it anyway or drink it differently than usual (ie without cream if you usually use it.)

It is not necessarily to make public witness. Any sacrifice made can be offered up as a penance for our own or even the world’s sins. Mortification is more to discipline our bodily desires, to develop the strength of will, to remind us that earthly pleasures are not our main goal. Public witness would be more in the category of evangelization rather than mortification.


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