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by John Vennari

Catholic Family News reported last month on the interreligious Congress at Fatima: “The Present of Man, the Future of God, the Place of Sanctuary in Relation to the Sacred”. I attended this Congress in Portugal which was held from October 10-12, 2003.[1]

Speakers at the Congress, including Father Jacques Dupuis and Archbishop Michael Fitzgerald, told delegates that Catholics should not seek to convert non- Catholics to the Catholic Church. This is because, according to the new, ecumenical system, non-Catholics are already part of the “Reign of God,” and do not have to convert to the Catholic Church for salvation.

On the subject of “no salvation outside the Catholic Church,” which is a defined dogma that Catholics must believe in order to remain Catholic, Father Dupuis said in disgust, “There is no need to invoke here that horrible text from the Council of Florence.” Father Dupuis also said that the purpose of dialogue is to help “the Christian to become a better Christian, and the Hindu a better Hindu.”

The Cardinal Patriarch of Lisbon, Fatima Shrine Rector, Bishop of Leiria- Fatima, and Apostolic Delegate all applauded Dupuis’ speech wherein, among many other outrages, he denounced a defined doctrine of the Church.

The next day, the Vatican’s Archbishop Michael Fitzgerald told the audience, “Father Dupuis yesterday explained the theological basis of the establishment of relations with people of other religions.” In short, Archbishop Fitzgerald praised Father Dupuis’ heresies.

The Sunday session at the Congress included testimonies from representatives of Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Anglicanism, Eastern Orthodoxy and Catholicism. At this session, Father Arul Irudayam, Rector of the Catholic Marian Shrine at Vailankanni, India, boasted that, as a further development of ecumenical comraderie, Hindus now perform their heathen rites inside the Catholic Church. The conference delegates, including Archbishop Fitzgerald, were delighted that this Marian Shrine was now used for idolatrous rituals. How long before the Shrine at Fatima is desecrated in a similar manner?

As has been pointed out repeatedly.

The Catholic Family News is not a good source as it is schismatic and against the Church.

Sorry I didn’t give you the address,oltyn.com/fatmjan.htm

BYZ, do you think that they (Catholic Family News) made all this up? Do you think CFN is telling a big lie?

Do you have “better” quotes that were made at Fatima by these particular men?

I have seen no other news service contridict these quotes.

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[quote=Exporter]Sorry I didn’t give you the address,oltyn.com/fatmjan.htm

BYZ, do you think that they (Catholic Family News) made all this up? Do you think CFN is telling a big lie?

Do you have “better” quotes that were made at Fatima by these particular men?

I have seen no other news service contridict these quotes.

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I would want more sources to verify this is exactly what happened. Catholic Family News is along the lines of The Remnant, which is hardly a credible source of information, as they are nothing more than a cheerleader for SSPX and any other independent/schismatic group.

Swiss Guard, You seem to think that this article was written by the dreaded Catholic Family News. It had the credits listed throughout. The truth is ( I said , the truth is) there were several news services quoted.
I have listed all the news services who were quoted.
5 by noticias de Fatima
3 by Portugal News
2 by Voz de Fatima .
by John Vennari
Catholic Family News,
So you see, it not as you say.
The November 1 Portugal News, The Notícias de Fatima, Notícias de Fátima , Portugal News and Notícias de Fátima ,* Notícias de Fátima,* and the *Portugal News,*this time from the Fatima Shrine’s own journal, Voz de Fatima., Voz de Fatima,

This is extremely grave. Here the Fatima Shrine’s official newspaper tells,

Voz de Fatima , Notícias de Fátima

Since this was supposedly a news item back in 2003

I attended this Congress in Portugal which was held from October 10-12, 2003.

why are you bringing this up now?

Isn’t there a more contemporary topic troubling you?

Peace in Christ…Salmon

[quote=Salmon]Since this was supposedly a news item back in 2003

why are you bringing this up now?

Isn’t there a more contemporary topic troubling you?

Peace in Christ…Salmon
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Hi Salmon,
Isnt this contemporary. No one seems to know about it here. It would appear to be very fresh news. Why not prove it and then discuss it. It would appear you have been in the dark for 16months and in this period of time your guilt could have been erased if you knew.
Quite frankly this is outstanding news. Think about the consequences. Think about the bravery of those who made this decision. Maybe this is why the pope kissed the quran. That was wrong because the quran does not lead us to Jesus and is an evil book but the people are loved by God. The pope should have kissed the muslim people.
If this is true discuss it openly, dont let pride take you into a dark corner.
Let the light shine
walk in love
edwing

[quote=edwinG]Hi Salmon,
Isnt this contemporary. No one seems to know about it here. It would appear to be very fresh news.
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Edwin, where have you been? This particular subject has been rehashed ad nauseum on this forum.

Try these links:

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Five
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Seven
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Ten

This is a list of just the first ten links found by doing a search on “Dupuis”, “Vennari”, or “Hindus Fatima”. There are many more threads on this topic.

EdwinG:

Why not prove it and then discuss it. It would appear you have been in the dark for 16months and in this period of time your guilt could have been erased if you knew.

How do you judge someone as having been in the dark regarding this issue. That is a curious judgment that you issue? I pray that your judgment goes more gently.

If you judge me as guilty in this matter of desecration, then I apologize to you.

EdwinG:

Quite frankly this is outstanding news.

Quite frankly, it is neither outstanding nor is it news. It was both at one time, however.

EdwinG:

Think about the consequences. Think about the bravery of those who made this decision. Maybe this is why the pope kissed the quran

Maybe you judge too many people too harshly and too quickly without access to the contents of their hearts.

EdwinG:

That was wrong because the quran does not lead us to Jesus and is an evil book but the people are loved by God.

You know the Koran well, Edwin. Do you know what scripture teaches regarding the practice of judging your neighbor?

EdwinG:

If this is true discuss it openly, dont let pride take you into a dark corner.

I fall at the hands of your judgment once again, Edwin.

Peace in Christ…Salmon

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