This again is to everyone as I can’t continually respond to every post pointed at me.
I must say that I believe you have made the best argument so far that I’ve heard for this case. The only reason I can say that I disagree with it is because I try to make my assertion on Scripture (although I know that I do make mistakes on how I characterize God because I am limited in my knowledge). Because I use Scripture it is not I that define God subjectively but the Bible that does so objectively.
Now, its a very tough subject and many people do have many opinions on it. I believe they are not the same because of the objections involved. They object to Christ! Meanwhile, the word was with God and the word was God and the word was made flesh! If they reject Christ, they reject the word and they reject God. What they believe if they reject our God must be a God that is defined by them and can no longer be ours.
You may disagree on this point but what we cannot disagree on is that they are not Christian and whether they may believe Allah and our God are the same, they don’t know the Son.
As far as Romans 2 goes…don’t take it without Romans 3 and the rest. Remember this is a letter and should be looked at in its entirety. Romans starts speaking about the differences between Jews and Gentiles. Then he goes on to speak about the obedience of the law. After this, he talks about how no one is righteous. NOT EVEN ONE.
Then is the key verse…
21But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe.
TO ALL WHO BELIEVE. No one is righteous except those who BELIEVE. He continues;
There is no difference between Jew or Muslim or anyone else…no one is righteous except those who believe,
23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement,* through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 26he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
He justifies whom? THOSE WHO HAVE FAITH IN JESUS.
Now lets continue in Chapter 4, where it is written;
22This is why “it was credited to him (Abraham) as righteousness.” 23The words “it was credited to him” were written not for him alone, 24but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness—for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. 25He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.
We need to believe in Him who raised Jesus from the dead. If we don’t believe that he raised Christ, how are we redeemed from sin?
In Chapter 5 he continues
1Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we[a]have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand.
We have been justified through Faith…we read in 3 that faith is in Christ and its been reiterated in 4 that faith must be in God who raised Christ from the dead.
Even much later on we read
9That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. 11As the Scripture says, “Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame.”
Paul is in no way advocating that a Gentile god without Christ can get to Heaven. He is no way saying that any Israelite (Jew) who does not believe in Christ can gain salvation. He states it clearly throughout Romans that it is only through Christ Jesus that salvation is given. Through our ACCEPTANCE AND BELIEF OF HIM.
In His Grip,