Ireland; priest shows gay porn to First Communion meeting...


#1

catholicsources.com/blog/2012/04/parents-pull-children-from-first-communion-after-priest-shows-gay-porn-slideshow/

The most worrying thing is that he is still on the altar etc.


#2

Wait......what!!.
Thats wrong on every level.


#3

Right... so how did those images get on that USB drive? He was clearly shaken that they showed up so he clearly didn't INTEND to show those images to the gathered parents and children.

Honestly a number of things could have gone down here.

A: He has a porn addiction. Lots of people do. He is human, as are we... and if he does have a porn addiction he clearly needs help overcoming it and we cannot know if he is receiving help or not from this side of things.

B: Someone set him up. It's possible someone had access to his USB drive and planted those photos there. I once had a kid put porn images on my computer so it's entirely possible. USB drives are usually not password protected.

C: It wasn't even his USB drive. Perhaps he borrowed it from someone else for the purpose of the slideshow.

I think people need to calm down and stop casting stones.


#4

[quote="nickybr38, post:3, topic:280674"]
Right... so how did those images get on that USB drive? He was clearly shaken that they showed up so he clearly didn't INTEND to show those images to the gathered parents and children.

Honestly a number of things could have gone down here.

A: He has a porn addiction. Lots of people do. He is human, as are we... and if he does have a porn addiction he clearly needs help overcoming it and we cannot know if he is receiving help or not from this side of things.

B: Someone set him up. It's possible someone had access to his USB drive and planted those photos there. I once had a kid put porn images on my computer so it's entirely possible. USB drives are usually not password protected.

C: It wasn't even his USB drive. Perhaps he borrowed it from someone else for the purpose of the slideshow.

I think people need to calm down and stop casting stones.

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Would you let a priest who has gay porn on his USB near your child? And no it is not OK for a priest to do this. It breaks his Celibacy Vow.

This is Ireland. home of the cover-up techniques. He should have been stood down. Period.

it is not a question of casting stones but of ensuring spiritual purity and integrity of the priesthood.


#5

In the cardinal's statement, he wrote, "The priest has stated that he had no knowledge of the offending imagery". In other words, we really don't know how the images got on the USB drive or whether the priest had even seen them before.


#6

[quote="Hopemercy, post:4, topic:280674"]
Would you let a priest who has gay porn on his USB near your child? And no it is not OK for a priest to do this. It breaks his Celibacy Vow.

This is Ireland. home of the cover-up techniques. He should have been stood down. Period.

it is not a question of casting stones but of ensuring spiritual purity and integrity of the priesthood.

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Under possibilities B and C the priest would have done no wrong. We can't rush to judgment!

They should see the date those files were put on the USB drive, if it was his USB drive, and if he left it unattended for any amount of time. That would help settle this.


#7

[quote="nickybr38, post:3, topic:280674"]
Right... so how did those images get on that USB drive? He was clearly shaken that they showed up so he clearly didn't INTEND to show those images to the gathered parents and children.

Honestly a number of things could have gone down here.

A: He has a porn addiction. Lots of people do. He is human, as are we... and if he does have a porn addiction he clearly needs help overcoming it and we cannot know if he is receiving help or not from this side of things.

B: Someone set him up. It's possible someone had access to his USB drive and planted those photos there. I once had a kid put porn images on my computer so it's entirely possible. USB drives are usually not password protected.

C: It wasn't even his USB drive. Perhaps he borrowed it from someone else for the purpose of the slideshow.

I think people need to calm down and stop casting stones.

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Wait. I read that story three times, where does it say it wasn't his USB drive? Also, why is his "having a porn addiction" a defense of anything? Someone set him up? I suppose, it could happen. But the issue is: no one is explaining anything to the parishioners. Is this another case where people are supposed to "humbly accept" ... what? Apparent do-nothingness?


#8

"When he entered his USB into the computer 16 gay porn images popped up for all the 26 parents, some teachers, and one eight-year-old child to see."

This is not how USB drives work. Pictures don't just "pop up" once you put it into the computer. It smells of foul play. I hope the Bishop is investigating.


#9

[quote="Julia_Mae, post:7, topic:280674"]
Wait. I read that story three times, where does it say it wasn't his USB drive? Also, why is his "having a porn addiction" a defense of anything? Someone set him up? I suppose, it could happen. But the issue is: no one is explaining anything to the parishioners. Is this another case where people are supposed to "humbly accept" ... what? Apparent do-nothingness?

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I'm saying it's a possibility that he borrowed the USB drive for the purpose of this slideshow. We really don't know.

Instead of making rash judgments I am attempting to look at the situation objectively rather then letting my emotions rule my reaction.

As to the other fellow who insinuated I was saying porn addiction is A-OK for a priest. That's not what I'm saying. But I am saying there are many people out there who enjoy looking at porn and they're not more likely to abuse a child then anybody else. It's not healthy. It's not okay but porn addiction does NOT make a person a horrible abusive human being and to jump to such a conclusion is wrong. Period.


#10

[quote="Garyjohn2, post:8, topic:280674"]
"When he entered his USB into the computer 16 gay porn images popped up for all the 26 parents, some teachers, and one eight-year-old child to see."

This is not how USB drives work. Pictures don't just "pop up" once you put it into the computer. It smells of foul play. I hope the Bishop is investigating.

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I know, which is why my initial reaction would be that he was set up. He'd have to be the dumbest person on the planet to deliberately try and show pornography to a room full of parents and their children.


#11

[quote="Garyjohn2, post:8, topic:280674"]
This is not how USB drives work. Pictures don't just "pop up" once you put it into the computer.

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Actually, yeah, they do. Many computers, especially those running a Windows OS, automatically detect the content type of a flash drive upon insertion. Many times, Windows will let you know it detected a certain type of media and give you choices as to how to proceed, but many other times, Windows will simply open the flash drive as a folder -- and if it detects predominantly picture media, it may increase the thumbnail size such as that if a priest insert a USB stick filled with porn, a folder would pop up with plenty of large thumbnails to clearly display the contents of the files.

Someone with an IT background should examine the configuration of the machine involved in this incident, and also examine the file creation timestamps of the images in question.


#12

The thumbnails of the images could have been visible when he tried to access the power point. If so, the priest should have seen them when he transferred the power point to the USB, so A and C are out, B is a possibility, if someone had access to the USB between uploading the power point and the presentation, or D: he grabbed the wrong USB, either from himself or another priest.


#13

This is at least the third thread on this topic.


#14

[quote="agnes_therese, post:13, topic:280674"]
This is at least the third thread on this topic.

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I didn't see the others. Perhaps if you have access to them you could alert a mod so they could merge them?


#15

[quote="Ladygem, post:12, topic:280674"]
The thumbnails of the images could have been visible when he tried to access the power point. If so, the priest should have seen them when he transferred the power point to the USB, so A and C are out, B is a possibility, if someone had access to the USB between uploading the power point and the presentation, or D: he grabbed the wrong USB, either from himself or another priest.

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B is still a possibility. He could have put the presentation on the USB a month ago or more, and someone got a hold of it between then and now.


#16

I couldn't remember for sure, so I looked this up.

In Windows XP and Vista, if a flash drive contains an autorun.inf file with one line of text, "OPEN=EXPLORER.EXE", it will automatically open Windows Explorer to view the contents. It will not work in Windows 7, they removed it for security issues.

Couple this with Windows Vista's option to view files as 'extra-large' thumbnails, and you can easily gag someone with porn or gore or similar. I have just confirmed this (not using immoral content of course), if you set the view to 'extra large thumbnails' that setting is maintained between uses of the device.


#17

Why would anyone keep their porn on a usb drive anyways? It doesn't make sense. I'm telling you none of this adds up.


#18

Well, we will never know. The laptop has… disappeared… from the priest’s house… reported stolen when nothing else was touched.

So very convenient.

I know; some here will find all kinds of reasons etc, but the whole thing is most unsavoury.


#19

Where did you hear that?
If that is true, someone really had it out for this priest, OR he is a very simple minded man trying to cover his tracks…because that would be way too obvious. You’d have to be really dumb to go ditch your laptop and say someone stole it right after the other alleged incident and expect people to believe it. It makes me think all the more he’s being set up!


#20

Yeah, things don't stack up and the more I hear the more I'm convinced he would have to be the world's biggest idiot to be doing any of this deliberately .

I am sorry but in this case I will reserve judgment. Let the authorities sort it out. It is not for me to cast stones.


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