Is America the new Roman Empire?


#104

mrsdizzyd84 - ALL ‘empires’ have their day - including the one upon which it was said, ‘the sun never set’, the British Empire.


#105

American citizens can be killed by the Govt without question.

We have all sorts of forms of violent entertainment - granted it’s not actually watching people get slain (yet) but it feeds the same base passions.

America is incredibly sexually deviant. We have every sexual sin Rome had and more. We have porn that would make any Roman blush at our fingertips 24/7.

Worship of pagan gods and false idols is widespread in America

American elections are turning into a massive sham, America is becoming more of an oligarchy on a daily basis. Free speech and freedom of religion? Those are being attacked daily and are in severe jeopardy of being lost. Freedom of religion has already been almost totally perverted to the point where we have de facto from FROM religion.


#106

I’m essentially paraphrasing St Augustine.

He once wrote to the effect, " there are those, having found themselves Catholic, remain so because they’re attracted to the doctrines and rituals. However, they’ve yet to become Christians."

Then there are those who became Christian, then Catholic. They are the backbone of the Church.

In other words, there are those who have religion, but no faith.

Then there are those who have faith and religion is how they respond to faith.

Jim


#107

American citizens can be killed by the Govt without question.

Name one instance where this happens.

We have all sorts of forms of violent entertainment - granted it’s not actually watching people get slain (yet) but it feeds the same base passions.

Yeah, video games. However, visit some parts of the world and you’ll see real violence.

Worship of pagan gods and false idols is widespread in America

Apparently you’re not living in America. This isn’t happening as you wrote.

American elections are turning into a massive sham, America is becoming more of an oligarchy on a daily basis. Free speech and freedom of religion? Those are being attacked daily and are in severe jeopardy of being lost. Freedom of religion has already been almost totally perverted to the point where we have de facto from FROM religion.

People still have the freedom to vote. We still have the freedom to speak out against the government without fear of being arrested and convicted.

I still practice my religion freely as do everyone else.

I don’t know where you’re getting your lopsided information.

Jim


#108

That’s more of a comment on our technology than on our deviance.

When I was a young man, back in the 1970’s, Liberty Avenue in Pittsburgh was the region’s Mecca for smut shops of all types, filthy movies, prostitutes, homosexuality, you name it.

Now its a snooty upper class , yuppie town.

The difference is technology, we have the same number of deviants as we always had, its just that now they are online and at our fingertips. No need for a pimp to get dressed up and drive out in his pimpmobile, he can sit behind a computer screen.


#109

Do you have pic of that? Would be interesting to see


#110

If you look at the cases of Hobby Lobby and the Little Sisters of the Poor, religious outfits who were expected to forsake their religious beliefs to toe the line with the ACA, you can see what people mean.

Same with the Christian bakery who refused to celebrate Gay Marriage, I think was over in Oregon.

For the most part, yes, people are free to follow their religions so far, but there are encroachments being made.


#111

No, because one of our generals said all we want is enough space to bury our dead.


#112

I haven’t trusted anything since JFK…


#113

There’s quite a bit of evidence which implicates LBJ as being if not responsible, at least complicit in the killing of JFK.

St. JFK, pray for us


#114

I think about this a lot, since so much of our current culture is like that of Rome before and after the time of Christ. Sexual immorality, the disintegration of the family, greed, violence, etc. In Paul’s letters, he lists the common sins of the day, which certainly seem to describe America today.

Our country was founded by men of faith, on assumptions made from faith. The founders never meant for “freedom of religion” to be “freedom from religion”. The loss of a moral compass is the death knell of a nation. I think abortion itself, even without all the other corruption, is sufficient.

2 Chronicles 7:14 if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

Let us pray that God will, for the sake of the remnant of faithful, will spare the land.


#115

Not him, either.


#116

Well, when he started pushing back against his “handlers” bad stuff happened… He tried but it was futile.


#117

He screwed up the Bay of Pigs landing [by canceling the U.S. Navy air strikes].

What was needed was a firm and relentless and ruthless proceeding.

Instead JFK was a vacillating tyro.

At that point Nikita Khrushchev knew that JFK was a lightweight frat boy.

And the Soviets began filling Cuba with missiles.

Which led to the Cuban Missile Crisis.

AND when “The Vietnam crisis” erupted, JFK could not even pronounce Laos correctly.


#118

And you’re comparing this to Christians being thrown to the lions during the Roman Empire ?

Jim


#119

At the end, the final collapse of Rome happened when the tax base imploded. Taxes had become so onerous by that time that landowners migrated away rather than continue to pay taxes. Eventually they continued to walk away even when there was no bid for their land. Cue the tax revenues dropping drastically. The armies sacked the cities they were supposed to be protecting when the pensions disappeared. For today’s equivalent, let’s watch Chicago and Illinois as they deal with their pension shortfalls.

Today? I don’t think it will get that bad here, but if the social welfare payments stop or become worthless, who knows?


#120

JFK was many things, but a Saint isn’t one of them. The way he treated his wife alone was horrible, and he was known as not being very religious nor dedicated to his Catholic Faith.

NOTE: I’m not implying that he’s in hell or anything. I’m simply saying he’s no where close to remotely having the credentials to be a canonized Saint, let alone a Servant of God.


#121

A person doesn’t have to be canonized by the Church to be a saint.

In fact, there are probably far more saints in heaven than the Church has canonized.

Jim


#122

Did you read my note? I said I’m not implying that he’s in hell. I said he doesn’t have the credentials to be a “canonized Saint”

Regardless, I wouldn’t call my grandfather (who I believe to be in heaven) St. Philip. So I’m not going to call JFK “St. JFK”


#123

Yeah I read that.

Just clarifying that not being canonized doesn’t mean a person isn’t a saint.

Jim


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