So the question then arises, “Is the old forum the same as the new forum?”
According to Fr David there is a difference between what a forum is and what people say about it. Even five year olds know that according to the Padre.
What the padre seems to forget is that what some people think and say may, in fact, be definitive about what a forum, or God, or what have you, actually are.
I would suppose there are philosophical questions to be had even when discussing what forums are and what they are not, and when they actually become different. That is a discussion to be had and to be permitted.
I would also suppose that what the person(s) of God have to say about what God is would, indeed, be definitive. Ergo, it isn’t logically true to say that what persons say about God is necessarily different from what God is. Depends upon who is doing the saying and what they are saying, no? So the good Father’s argument doesn’t amount to an argument because what some people say may be crucial in determining the truth of a matter.
For a Muslim, what Mohammed had to say about God was definitive. There we have a “who” saying a “what” as far as Muslims are concerned.
Now Fr. David seems to want to absolve himself of being a “who” saying a “what,” as if what he is saying ought to be definitive merely because what people say about a thing is different from the whatness of the thing. That may be true most of the time, but it isn’t true all of the time. So merely because it is frequently true does not amount to an argument that it is necessarily true.
Fr. David, and you as well now, want to claim that the Church has ruled definitively on the matter that Muslims and Christians worship the same God. How is that not also subject to Fr. David’s objection because a group of whos (the Church) is, apparently, saying something definitive about a what. If that group happens to be correct, then that would undermine the grounds from which Fr. David has been arguing all along. Apparently, in this case what someone has to say about the God of both Islam and Christianity is the last word on the matter. Ergo, Fr. David’s claim undermines his own argument.
In this case, you and Fr. David both want to argue that what a specific group of people (the Church) is saying about a thing is the definitive reason for accepting the truth about the thing. See the problem?
The question still remains, is the Church correct in speaking for Islam regarding whether the two conceptions of God are, indeed the same? Seems to me that the Church telling another religion about what it believes about the God it believes in is delving into matters that the Church ought to stay out of.