Is divine nature a part of Lord Jesus?

Is it true to say that the divine nature ws a part of Lord Jesus?

Yes, a part inseparable from the human part.

Jesus’ divine nature was who He was. He was a divine person who assumed a human nature.

Yes, if by part you don’t mean 50% per cent :slight_smile: He was 100% human (but sinless) and 100% God. So part is not to be taken as fraction of a whole here.

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Yes, Jesus is fully Divine as the Word of God, which was with God in the beginning (John 1). John 8:58-59 says:"Jesus said to them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.They took up stones therefore to cast at him. But Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple. "

The reason the Jews attempted to stone Our Blessed Lord is that He was appropriating the Divine Name, revealed to Moses in Exodus 3:14: “God said to Moses: I AM WHO AM.”, thus showing that He is God

John 13:34 states: "A new commandment I give unto you: That you love one another, as I have loved you, that you also love one another. " Fr John Bartunek points out in relation to this verse that throughout Salvation History, only God has the power to give commandments, all the prophets & humans who passed down commandments from God never said “I give you a new Commmandment” but instead, something like “These are the precepts, and ceremonies, and judgments, which the Lord your God commanded that I should teach you,” (Deuteronomy 6:1). This shows that Our Lord was using His authority as God to give His holy disciples a new commandment.

Finally, here’s a quote from the Acts of the Council of Ephesus in 431, citing The Epistle of Cyril to Nestorius

"The holy and great Synod therefore says, that the only begotten Son, born according to nature of God the Father, very God of very God, Light of Light, by whom the Father made all things, came down, and was incarnate, and was made man, suffered, and rose again the third day, and ascended into heaven.

These words and these decrees we ought to follow, considering what is meant by the Word of God being incarnate and made man. For we do not say that the nature of the Word was changed and became flesh, or that it was converted into a whole man consisting of soul and body; but rather that the Word having personally united to himself flesh animated by a rational soul, did in an ineffable and inconceivable manner become man, and was called the Son of Man, not merely as willing or being pleased to be so called, neither on account of taking to himself a person, but because the two natures being brought together in a true union, there is of both one Christ and one Son; for the difference of the natures is not taken away by the union, but rather the divinity and the humanity make perfect for us the one Lord Jesus Christ by their ineffable and inexpressible union.

So then he who had an existence before all ages and was born of the Father, is said to have been born according to the flesh of a woman, not as though his divine nature received its beginning of existence in the holy Virgin, for it needed not any second generation after that of the Father (for it would be absurd and foolish to say that he who existed before all ages, coeternal with the Father, needed any second beginning of existence), but since, for us and for our salvation, he personally united to himself an human body, and came forth of a woman, he is in this way said to be born after the flesh; for he was not first born a common man of the holy Virgin, and then the Word came down and entered into him, but the union being made in the womb itself, he is said to endure a birth after the flesh, ascribing to himself the birth of his own flesh.

On this account we say that he suffered and rose again; not as if God the Word suffered in his own nature stripes, or the piercing of the nails, or any other wounds, for the Divine nature is incapable of suffering, inasmuch as it is incorporeal, but since that which had become his own body suffered in this way, he is also said to suffer for us; for he who is in himself incapable of suffering was in a suffering body. In the same manner also we conceive respecting his dying; for the Word of God is by nature immortal and incorruptible, and life and life-giving; since, however, his own body did, as Paul says, by the grace of God taste death for every man, he himself is said to have suffered death for us, not as if he had any experience of death in his own nature (for it would be madness to say or think this), but because, as I have just said, his flesh tasted death. In like manner his flesh being raised again, it is spoken of as his resurrection, not as if he had fallen into corruption (God forbid), but because his own body was raised again.

We, therefore, confess one Christ and Lord, not as worshipping. a man with the Word (lest this expression with the Word should suggest to the mind the idea of division), but worshipping him as one and the same, forasmuch as the body of the Word, with which he sits with the Father, is not separated from the Word himself, not as if two sons were sitting with him, but one by the union with the flesh. If, however, we reject the personal union as impossible or unbecoming, we fall into the error of speaking of two sons, for it will be necessary to distinguish, and to say, that he who was properly man was honoured with the appellation of Son, and that he who is properly the Word of God, has by nature both the name and the reality of Sonship. We must not, therefore, divide the one Lord Jesus Christ into two Sons.

Neither will it at all avail to a sound faith to hold, as some do, an union of persons; for the Scripture has not said that the Word united to himself the person of man, but that he was made flesh. This expression, however, the Word was made flesh, can mean nothing else but that he partook of flesh and blood like to us; he made our body his own, and came forth man from a woman, not casting off his existence as God, or his generation of God the Father, but even in taking to himself flesh remaining what he was.

This the declaration of the correct faith proclaims everywhere. ." (taken from newadvent.org/fathers/3810.htm)

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I mean is this true to say:

Jesus= divine nature + human natue

Yes, but as others said, it is not Jesus (1/1) = 1/2 divine nature + 1/2 human nature, but

Jesus’ being (1/1) is 1 divine nature and 1 human nature, or better said, because there are not 2 divine natures, Jesus has the divine and human natures.

Two natures in one being, both being full in Christ except sin.

If he is 100% God, can he be human? For example if your car is 100% blue, can you say it is 100% red?

Colours are matter and or energy/light, so they are creations. God’s nature is uncreated, while Jesus’ human nature is like mine and yours, just sinless.

So you cannot compare this to colours or anything in the Creation. These analogies are imperfect. But it is clear that Jesus

Was born, learned things, felt hunger, drank, wept, slept, suffered, died, prayed God, … that is His human nature, without which His death for atonement would have been impossible.

but Jesus also: is the second Person of the Trinity, was virginally concieved, performed miracles (omnipotence), was omniscient (coulr read minds), forgave sins, was resurrected, ascended, … that is His divine nature, without which His death would not have provided eternal satisfaction for the atonement.

In the Pauline letters you can read that God the Son “emptied Himslef” and took human flesh, so it seems He lost his divine nature, but it is not so. It means he let Himself be less than who He is, he bowed down to us, so to speak, he “humiliated Himself” to join us in the his Flesh, retaining from using His full Wisdom, not communicating it to His human nature, but, even if always divine, only performing divinely when needed.

The Hypostatic Union is THE great mystery of the Incarnation. We KNOW that the Human nature and the Divine nature come together in the Person of Jesus Christ. The Person of Jesus Christ is UNIQUE and has no equal. We KNOW this because the Church has told us so.

This is not a mathematical equation; it is a Divine mystery.

If it’s green, I can say it’s 100% blue and 100% yellow… :wink:

(Still, though, this doesn’t fully describe Jesus, since he’s not some sort of mixture or amalgam that adds up to Himself.)

Human beings have a spiritual soul and a body of flesh. They are joined together by God, but we really can’t understand how that’s possible. Jesus has both, Divine and human nature, forever joined together. His Divinity and humanity can never be separated from each other. As God, He is pure Spirit. As a human being, Jesus also has a human body and a human soul. In the Incarnation, His Divinity and His Humanity were perfectly fused together, forming the God-Man. That’s what the Incarnation is; God becoming Man. He’s both 100% God, and 100% Man, at the same time. It’s one of the greatest mysteries that human beings will ever try (and always fail) to fully understand.

We are incapable of understanding some of the mysteries about God, because of our very limited human intellect, but they are still true. Only God can ever fully understand how they are possible. As a result, we have to accept them as true, based on our faith and trust in God, Himself. If He says they’re true, then we should always believe whatever He tells us. Because, nothing is impossible to God, no matter how much we might struggle to understand how it could be possible. To put it bluntly, even the greatest human genius that has ever lived on earth is a complete moron compared to God. So, some things about God, we will never be able to understand. All we can do, is humbly accept those things, by having complete faith in God, alone.

Peace and all Good!

This reminds me of a quote from St Basil the Great, speaking of the Most Holy Trinity, which says something along the lines of “The great Mystery of our Faith is that 1+1+1=1” (I spent ages trying to find the exact quote & where its from but I can’t track it down) referring to the essential Unity of God, i.e. all 3 Persons of the Trinity are ONE in their Divine substance , only distinct in their Personhood. The Father, Son & Holy Ghost are all fully Divine in Nature. Jesus Christ also posses a fully Human Nature, taken from Our Lady

As you point out, Our Lord is Truly unique, and human rules don’t apply when trying to penetrate God’s Mysteries-we know, believe and accept them because this is the unchanging and solemnly defined teaching of Holy Mother Church.

Quite the opposite. Human nature is such that the divine nature can be expressed through it–so marvelous is this mystery that the divine nature of Jesus does not subtract from or compete with Jesus’ humanity, but rather it allows him to be more fully human than anyone else in existence! Jesus is the most human person of all.

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