Is Gov. Chris Christie Subject to excommunication for allowing gay marriage?

Recently the New Jersey courts ruled that gay marriage must be allowed. Gov. Christie essentially has thrown up his hands and allowed gay marriage. Since he is Roman Catholic can he now be excommunicated for this act? :confused:

I will attempt impartiality since I have personal investment in this matter.

To blame the governor, who is against it and initiated an appeal, is a bit silly. True he recanted his repeal but still left his distain known. Before Chris Christie, it should be asked if “Catholics” like Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi should be excommunicated (which they are not, nor are they refused communion).

Maybe it is time for them to be held accountable?

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Originally Posted by MorEphrem

I will attempt impartiality since I have personal investment in this matter.

To blame the governor, who is against it and initiated an appeal, is a bit silly. True he recanted his repeal but still left his distain known. Before Chris Christie, it should be asked if “Catholics” like Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi should be excommunicated (which they are not, nor are they refused communion).

Maybe it is time for them to be held accountable?
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If they are already apostates, then what does it matter?

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No.

God will hold them accountable.

I certainly agree they should be held accountable. However, my point was Chris Christie should not incur any punishment. He has stated and continues to openly state his objection.

Nah…
He is adamantly against it and publicly states he is against it. It’s out of his hands at the moment.

Nancy Pelosi…should at least stop receiving Holy Communion. A publicly PRO-abortion politician should not be able to receive communion. She can’t have it both ways. :mad:

it matters because if they are receiving communion, they are profaning the sacrifice in some way. just like everyone who takes communion while in mortal sin. which i’m assuming promoting things against church teaching would apply

I don’t know if you know how State Governments work; but. Governor Christi is not “allowing” Gay Marriage in New Jersey. A Justice of the State Supreme Court has decided that it is against the State Constitution to not allow homosexuals to marry each other. The Governor has no choice in the matter. He cannot even appeal this decision any higher. The US Supreme Court cannot be involved because Marriage and Divorce in the US are States Issues, not Federal Issues; and, it is the Governors duty and obligation to enforce the judgment’s of the State Courts.
There are no grounds for Governor Christi to be excommunicated. He has publically stated his opposition to so-called Gay Marriage and has acted against its adoption as much as he can under law.
Legally, he has done everything that can be done. What do you expect that he do- resign? That would be a violation of the promises he made to the people he elected…which, in my opinion, would be a sin unto itself.

I haven’t heard and I can’t think of any celebrities or politicians in the 20-21st century who were excommunicated for announcing or expressing disagreement which Church doctrine, whether or not they’re “supposed to be” excommunicated or no matter how dogmatic is seen as by the Church.

I just totally do not get both sides of this argument. I am not sure why gay people are so insistent on gay marriage, and I do not understand why Christians are waging war on gay people.

There is much more talk in the Bible about loving your neighbor, showing mercy and not being judgemental, than there is about sodomy. These people are turned away by followers of religion, tortured, discriminated against and killed.

I used to be political, but I gave that up. How can you take part in something when everyone is wrong? I am not mad at you guys, and I am not mad at them. I am just disappointed with the way we all treat each other.:bighanky:

It’s not that “Christians are against gays.” It’s that Christians are against the hedonistic foundations of the sexual revolution. Gay marriage is just one aspect of the larger social issue of hedonism and aggressive sexual revolutionaries.

Well I can’t argue with that. Unbridled obsession in sex, porn, drugs, any of this, pushes God out of our lives. It is not always easy to get the “genie” back in the bottle once uncorked.

Christie has been a politician about this from day one. He postures for cred on the social issues with a light touch, on a national level because he knows people in other states – should he run for higher offices – can look into his actions ‘on Record’. To their unfamiliar eye they won’t see anything that jumps out at them as egregiously against the ‘hot button issues’ on their litmus test, so he can fool just enough of the social issues voting block.

Now that enough states have fallen; it’s expedient for him to do away with pretenses. 'Oh well, I tried, let’s move on. ’

Christie only started talking up his Roman Catholic credentials, when he reached office, he even admits he was pro-abortion until he became governor gave some speech a couple years ago, how he became pro-life. Take him at his word, but he is not exactly the most noble of politicians to care for what he says anyway. He maybe a raised Catholic man, but he is a politician first.

He’ll no sooner be excommunicated the way Biden or Pelosi would be. He is just like them to a lesser extent, even Paul Ryan; no different. There are Catholics guilty of infidelity on both sides of the aisle.

Please pray more about understanding Marriage and True charity. Then you would not say such foolish things about the false compassion and false kinds of “love”, dripping with the error of “Non-Judgmentalism”

To say preserving marriage attacks any type of people is just so erroneous, you need to pray more because you do not know what you are saying.

Especially about* “mercy and treating each other.” *Also the Bible , especially the New Testament, Jesus HIMSELF talks about Hell very much. So you are incorrect.

These people are turned away by followers of religion, tortured, discriminated against and killed.

This does not happen in the US. This has happened in Islamic countries. And this has nothing to do with the argument at hand.

All people of all creed and colors and behaviors are killed and tortured somewhere. Why they are, is the bigger question.

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Originally Posted by aTraditionalist

If they are already apostates, then what does it matter?

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it matters because if they are receiving communion, they are profaning the sacrifice in some way. just like everyone who takes communion while in mortal sin. which i’m assuming promoting things against church teaching would apply
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Yeah I get this. My point is that they are Catholic in name only. What does it matter to them that the Church disapproves? I doubt these politicians are taking up pew space. If their priests and bishops are worthy of their office then they won’t be given communion anyway.

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