Is Islam's Allah a Moon god ?


#1

Muslim activists in the West have been using the tactic of claiming that they worship the same god as the Christians in order to gain legitimacy and acceptance. They have been using the name “God” in place of “Allah” in many translations of the Qur’an. But, Muslims DO NOT pray to the same God (Yahweh/ Jehovah) of Christians and Jews. Muslims are deceived by Lucifer into thinking Worshipping Allah means “Submission to God” when they are really worshipping a arab moon god. In Islam, Lucifer is deceiving 1.2 billion people!

Creation of sun, is called in Arabic as “alnoor alakbar” which means “the greater light”. We are also told that the moon is called “alnoor alasghar” meaning “the lesser light”.

However, the Bedouins of Arabia reversed the order because they did not like the heat in their desert and thus called the moon “akbar”. In as much as the pagans before Muhammad worshiped the moon as one of their 360 idols and gods, the moon was eventually elevated to the supreme god and called “akbar”. The archeologists have found that the largest temples in Arabia were dedicated to this moon god.

Muhammad appeased the citizens of Mecca and Arabia by accepting Akbar as the supreme god with the phrase “Allahhu Akbar”. It actually means “the god is akbar”. You see, “elah” means “a god”. But “Allah”, means “the god”. Therefore, Muslims have this crescent moon on top of their mosques, they live by a lunar calendar and they also have a chapter in the Quran called “the Moon”.

Allah - the Moon god

**The Archeology of The Middle East **
The religion of Islam has as its focus of worship a deity by the name of “Allah.” The Muslims claim that Allah in pre-Islamic times was the biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets, and apostles. The issue is thus one of continuity. Was “Allah” the biblical God or a pagan god in Arabia during pre-Islamic times? The Muslim’s claim of continuity is essential to their attempt to convert Jews and Christians for if “Allah” is part of the flow of divine revelation in Scripture, then it is the next step in biblical religion. Thus we should all become Muslims. But, on the other hand, if Allah was a pre-Islamic pagan deity, then its core claim is refuted. Religious claims often fall before the results of hard sciences such as archeology. We can endlessly speculate about the past or go and dig it up and see what the evidence reveals. This is the only way to find out the truth concerning the origins of Allah. As we shall see, the hard evidence demonstrates that the god Allah was a pagan deity. In fact, he was the Moon-god who was married to the sun goddess and the stars were his daughters.

Archaeologists have uncovered temples to the Moon-god throughout the Middle East. From the mountains of Turkey to the banks of the Nile, the most wide-spread religion of the ancient world was the worship of the Moon-god.


Al-Kindi, one of the early Christian apologists against Islam, pointed out that Islam and its god Allah did not come from the Bible but from the paganism of the Sabeans. They did not worship the God of the Bible but the Moon-god and his daughters al-Uzza, al-Lat and Manat. Dr. Newman concludes his study of the early Christian-Muslim debates by stating, “Islam proved itself to be…a separate and antagonistic religion which had sprung up from idolatry.” Islamic scholar Caesar Farah concluded “There is no reason, therefore, to accept the idea that Allah passed to the Muslims from the Christians and Jews.” The Arabs worshipped the Moon-god as a supreme deity. But this was not biblical monotheism. While the Moon-god was greater than all other gods and goddesses, this was still a polytheistic pantheon of deities. Now that we have the actual idols of the Moon-god, it is no longer possible to avoid the fact that Allah was a pagan god in pre-Islamic times. Is it any wonder then that the symbol of Islam is the crescent moon? That a crescent moon sits on top of their mosques and minarets? That a crescent moon is found on the flags of Islamic nations? That the Muslims fast during the month which begins and ends with the appearance of the crescent moon in the sky?

**CONCLUSION **

The pagan Arabs worshipped the Moon-god Allah by praying toward Mecca several times a day; making a pilgrimage to Mecca; running around the temple of the Moon-god called the Kabah; kissing the black stone; killing an animal in sacrifice to the Moon-god; throwing stones at the devil; fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon; giving alms to the poor, etc.

The Muslim’s claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and must be rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel. moongod.htm

For Full Article : biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm


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Pre-Islamic Arabia - Moon god and Symbols

See kingsley_sornaraj

#3

Post Islamic Arabia and Today’s Muslim Ummah - Same Moon god and Same Symbols

Flags of Muslim nations:

Every mosque has the moon god symbol on top of it

Maqam Ibrahim beside the Kaba has the moon god symbol on top of it

Muslim’s Allah = Moon god(one of 360 pre-islamic idols)
Muslims are deceived by Lucifer shaitan into thinking Worshipping Allah means “Submission to God” while they are really worshipping a arab moon god.(one of 360 pagan idols)


#4

Proud Kafir,

No. Allah is not a moon god. :nope: :tsktsk:

“Allah, there is no diety except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of [all] existence. Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is it that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills. His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth, and their preservation tires Him not. And He is the Most Hight, the Most Great.” (Qur’an 2:255)

Could it not be that you’re the one who is deceived by Satan to believe your preposterous claim that Allah the Almighty is a moon god? Islam came to call people away from the worship of creation to the worship of the Creator and you claim that Muslims worship a piece of stone?! The ridiculousness of your claim precedes your pride as a kaafir.

Maryam V.


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[quote=Proud Kafir]Post Islamic Arabia and Today’s Muslim Ummah - Same Moon god and Same Symbols

Flags of Muslim nations:

Every mosque has the moon god symbol on top of it

Maqam Ibrahim beside the Kaba has the moon god symbol on top of it

Muslim’s Allah = Moon god(one of 360 pre-islamic idols)
Muslims are deceived by Lucifer shaitan into thinking Worshipping Allah means “Submission to God” while they are really worshipping a arab moon god.(one of 360 pagan idols)
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This is an OLD GIMMICK to discredit Islam. Muslims will laugh at you for buying this ****.

manx


#6

Proud Kafir,

You are of course correct. Yet, isn’t this process similar to what all religions have done with conqueored gods and religious objects? I remember translating some inscriptions that extolled the power of Christ to heal through some healing ponds in Gerasa, trans Jordon, which had previously been the healing ponds of Dionysios.

In any event I appreciate your extensive effort, agree with your findings, but would modify some of your conclusions.

Islam does indeed overreach in its claims but Islams even more serious problem is its inability to curb its lust for violence. One wonders how small Islam would be if its definition were limited to what many posters here claim it is. Without its violent conquests and it enslavement of conqueored peoples would we know much more about it today than we know of Zoroastrianism?

Dan L


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[quote=manx]This is an OLD GIMMICK to discredit Islam. Muslims will laugh at you for buying this ****.

manx
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Except for your group’s threats of violence why should we care?

CDL


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[quote=Maryam V.]Proud Kafir,

No. Allah is not a moon god. :nope: :tsktsk:

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Wake up Maryam. This how Lucifer Shaitan deceives 1.2 billion muslims. Muslims are deceived into thinking Allah means “submission to God” when they are really worshipping a moon god. That’s why Islamic world is backward in everything, Fruits of Islam is bitter.


#9

Historical evidences, impartial logic, well versed references and all available circumstantial judgments can very well prove that**—(a) Allah name of deity was pre-existed much before the arrival of Islam, (b) Pre-Islamic Pagan peoples worshipped Allah as their supreme deity (moon-god). Allah’s name existed in pre-Islamic Arab. ** In ancient Arab the Allah was considered to be the supreme God/deity (as Moon-God) and Arab Pagans worshipped Allah before Islam arrived.

Let us examine below some valid questions and answers :

Did the Pagan Arabs in pre-Islamic times worship 360 gods? Yes

Did the pagans Arabs worship the sun, moon and the stars? Yes

Did the Arabs built temples to the Moon-god? Yes

Did different Arab tribes give the Moon-god different names/titles? Yes

What were some of the **names/titles? Sin, Hubul, Ilumquh, Al-ilah. **

Was the title “al-ilah” (the god) used as the Moon-god? Yes

Was the word “Allah” derived from “al-ilah?” Yes

Was the pagan “Allah” a high god in a pantheon of deities? Yes.

Was he worshipped at the Kabah? Yes.

Was Allah only one of many Meccan gods? Yes

Did they place a statue of Hubul on top of the Kabah? Yes.

At that time was Hubul considered the Moon-god? Yes.

Was the Kabah thus the “house of the Moon-god”? Yes.

Did the name “Allah” eventually replace that of Hubul as the name of the Moon god? Yes.

Did they call the Kabah the “house of Allah”? Yes.

Were al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat called “the daughters of Allah”? Yes.

Yusuf Ali explains in fn. 5096, pg. 1445, that Lat, Uzza and Manat were known as “the daughters of God [Allah]”

Did the Qur’an at one point tell Muslims to worship al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat? Yes. In Surah 53:19-20.

Have those verses been “abrogated” out of the present Qur’an? Yes.

What were they called? “The Satanic Verses.”


#10

GregoryPalamas,
You are right. For the first 13 years of Islam in Mecca, Less than 100 people had accepted Islam.
As soon as Mohammed took sword and his subsequent wholesale massacres, It was spread rapidly.

Here is Islamic history for the first couple of hundred years. It does not get better later. It only gets worse. You know all those expeditions and battles and invasion, it were not flies that were being killed. It was the humans, the kaffirs, the buddhists of Central Asia, Afghanistan, India, the kaffirs of persia, Iraq, Egypt, Sudan, Algeria, etc. etc. Jihad is forever for muslims, and in jihad ofcourse no is killed because it is just an inner struggle, isn’t it?

623: Nakhla expedition.
624: Battle of Badr. Expulsion of the Bani Qainuqa Jews from Madina.
625: Battle of Uhud. Massacre of 70 Muslims at Bir Mauna. Expulsion of Banu Nadir Jews from Madina. Second expedition of Badr.
626: Expedition of Banu Mustaliq.
627: Battle of the Trench. Expulsion of Banu Quraiza Jews.
628: Truce of Hudaibiya. Expedition to Khyber. The Holy Prophet addresses letters to various heads of states.
629: The Holy Prophet performs the pilgrimage at Makkah. Expedition to Muta (Romans).
630: Conquest of Makkah. Battles of Hunsin, Auras, and Taif.
631: Expedition to Tabuk. Year of Deputations.
632: Farewell pilgrimage at Makkah.
632: Death of the Holy Prophet. Election of Hadrat Abu Bakr as the Caliph. Usamah leads expedition to Syria. Battles of Zu Qissa and Abraq. Battles of Buzakha, Zafar and Naqra. Campaigns against Bani Tamim and Musailima, the Liar.
633: Campaigns in Bahrain, Oman, Mahrah Yemen, and Hadramaut. Raids in Iraq. Battles of Kazima, Mazar, Walaja, Ulleis, Hirah, Anbar, Ein at tamr, Daumatul Jandal and Firaz.
634: Battles of Basra, Damascus and Ajnadin. Death of Hadrat Abu Bakr. Hadrat Umar Farooq becomes the Caliph. Battles of Namaraq and Saqatia.
635: Battle of Bridge. Battle of Buwaib. Conquest of Damascus. Battle of Fahl.
636: Battle of Yermuk. Battle of Qadsiyia. Conquest of Madain.
637: Conquest of Syria. Fall of Jerusalem. Battle of Jalula.
638: Conquest of Jazirah.
639: Conquest of Khuizistan. Advance into Egypt.
640: Capture of the post of Caesaria in Syria. Conquest of Shustar and Jande Sabur in Persia. Battle of Babylon in Egypt.
641: Battle of Nihawand. Conquest Of Alexandria in Egypt.
642: Battle of Rayy in Persia. Conquest of Egypt. Foundation of Fustat.
643: Conquest of Azarbaijan and Tabaristan (Russia).
644: Conquest of Fars, Kerman, Sistan, Mekran and Kharan.Martyrdom of Hadrat Umar. Hadrat Othman becomes the Caliph.
645: Campaigns in Fats.
646: Campaigns in Khurasan, Armeain and Asia Minor.
647: Campaigns in North Africa. Conquest of the island of Cypress.
648: Campaigns against the Byzantines.
651: Naval battle of the Masts against the Byzantines.
652: Discontentment and disaffection against the rule of Hadrat Othman.
656: Martyrdom of Hadrat Othman. Hadrat Ali becomes the Caliph. Battle of the Camel.
657: Hadrat Ali shifts the capital from Madina to Kufa. Battle of Siffin. Arbitration proceedings at Daumaut ul Jandal.
658: Battle of Nahrawan.
659: Conquest of Egypt by Mu’awiyah.
660: Hadrat Ali recaptures Hijaz and Yemen from Mu’awiyah. Mu’awiyah declares himself as the Caliph at Damascus.
661: Martyrdom of Hadrat Ali. Accession of Hadrat Hasan and his abdication. Mu’awiyah becomes the sole Caliph.
662: Khawarij revolts.
666: Raid of Sicily.
670: Advance in North Africa. Uqba b Nafe founds the town of Qairowan in Tunisia. Conquest of Kabul.
672: Capture of the island of Rhodes. Campaigns in Khurasan.
674: The Muslims cross the Oxus. Bukhara becomes a vassal state.
677: Occupation of Sarnarkand and Tirmiz. Siege of Constantinople.
680: Death of Muawiyah. Accession of Yazid. Tragedy of Kerbala and martyrdom of Hadrat Hussain.
682: In North Africa Uqba b Nafe marches to the Atlantic, is ambushed and killed at Biskra. The Muslims evacuate Qairowan and withdraw to Burqa.
683: Death of Yazid. Accession of Mu’awiyah II.
684: Abdullah b Zubair declares himself aS the Caliph at’Makkah. Marwan I becomes the Caliph’ at Damascus. Battle of Marj Rahat.
685: Death of Marwan I. Abdul Malik becomes the Caliph at Damascus. Battle of Ain ul Wada.
686: Mukhtar declares himself as the Caliph at Kufa.
687: Battle of Kufa between the forces of Mukhtar and Abdullah b Zubair. Mukhtar killed.
691: Battle of Deir ul Jaliq. Kufa falls to Abdul Malik.
692: The fall of Makkah. Death of Abdullah b Zubair. Abdul Malik becomes the sole Caliph.
695: Khawarij revolts in Jazira and Ahwaz. Battle of the Karun. Campaigns against Kahina in North Africa. The’ Muslims once again withdraw to Barqa. The Muslims advance in Transoxiana and occupy Kish.


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8th Century (700-799) C.E.
700: Campaigns against the Berbers in North Africa.
702: Ashath’s rebellion in Iraq, battle of Deir ul Jamira.
705: Death of Abdul Malik. Accession of Walid I as Caliph.
711: Conquest of Spain, Sind and Transoxiana.
712: The Muslims advance in Spain, Sind and Transoxiana.
713: Conquest of Multan.
715: Death of Walid I. Accession of Sulaiman.
716: Invasion of Constantinople.
717: Death of Sulaiman. Accession of Umar b Abdul Aziz.
720: Death of Umar b Abdul Aziz. Accession of Yazid II.
724: Death of Yazid II. Accession of Hisham.
725: The Muslims occupy Nimes in France.
732: The battle of Tours in France.
737: The Muslims meet reverse at Avignon in France.
740: Shia revolt under Zaid b Ali. Berber revolt in North Africa. Battle of the Nobles.
741: Battle of Bagdoura in North Africa.
742: The Muslim rule restored in Qiarowan.
743: Death of Hisham. Accession of Walid II. Shia revolt in Khurasan under Yahya b Zaid.
744: Deposition of Walid I1. Accession of Yazid II1 and his death. Accession of Ibrahim and his overthrow. Battle of Ain al Jurr. Accession of Marwan II.
745: Kufa and Mosul occupied by the Khawarjites.
746: Battle of Rupar Thutha, Kufa and Mosul occupied by Marwan II.
747: Revolt of Abu Muslim in Khurasan.
748: Battle of Rayy.
749: Battles of lsfahan and Nihawand. Capture of Kufa by the Abbasids. As Saffah becomes the Abbasid Caliph at Kufa.
750: Battle of Zab. Fall of Damascus. End of the Umayyads.
751: Conquest of Wasit by the Abbasid. Murder of the Minister Abu Salama.
754: Death of As Saffah. Accession of Mansur as the Caliph.
755: Revolt of Abdullah b Ali. Murder of Abu Muslim. Sunbadh revolt in Khurasan.
756: Abdul Rahman founds the Umayyad state in Spain.
762: Shia revolt under Muhammad (Nafs uz Zakia) and Ibrahim.
763: Foundation of Baghdad. Defeat of the Abbasids in Spain.
767: Khariji state set up by Ibn Madrar at Sijilmasa. Ustad Sees revolt in Khurasan.
772: Battle of Janbi in North Africa. Rustamid. state set up in Morocco.
775: Death or the Abbasid Caliph Mansur, Accession of Mahdi,
777: Battle of Saragossa in Spain.
785: Death of the Caliph Mahdi. Accession of Hadi.
786: Death of Hadi. Accession of Harun ur Rashid.
788: Idrisid state set up in the Maghrib. Death of Abdul Rahman of Spain, and accession of Hisham.
792: Invasion of South France.
796: Death of Hisham in Spain; accession of al Hakam.
799: Suppression of the revolt of the Khazars. Ninth century.

Islam was born in Violence, Live in Violence, Will live in Violence until last human submit to Islam. Even then, Islam will not live peacefully, It will fight among itself. You See, Just within few years after Islam was introduced in Arabia in 6th Century, Muslim fought among themselves for the lust for power, money and 20000 muslims were killed in the name of Islam. Islam Can’t be reformed.


#12

Do not all religions have a history of violence in their pasts? Also the Catholic Church formed many of their holidays, feasts etc. around Pagan holidays…it is (was) a way for them to convert Pagans to Catholics.


#13

Proud Kafir,

Add to this the endless humiliations Christians and Jews have endured under the Dhimmi laws and you have an excellent picture of what Islam is all about.

Karin,

If you added all of the deaths that have occurred at the hands of Christian kings and princes and multiplied it by 100 you would not come close to what Muslim caliphs and mullahs have done against their enemies.

Thankfully, most of the Muslims I have met are very good people as far as I can tell. They seem as blissfully unaware of the connection between Islamic teachings and the butchery that fellow Muslims have undertaken as the Muslims posters here are.

Can Islam be reformed? I confess, I do not know.

Dan L


#14

[quote=GregoryPalamas]Except for your group’s threats of violence why should we care?

CDL
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which group are you talking about? unless you have mistakenly labeled me a Muslim.


#15

[quote=Proud Kafir] Muslims are deceived into thinking Allah means “submission to God” when they are really worshipping a moon god. That’s why Islamic world is backward in everything, Fruits of Islam is bitter.
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You showed your ignorance again. Where did you get that information that Allah means " submission to God "? I am not a Muslim but praise the Lord, He has given me an unbias attitude towards other religion esp Islam. Allah came from the arabic *al * (The ) and ilah (god). In other words, it means The God. The God of the Muslims is the same God who sent all the prophets including Jesus.

manx


#16

In the name of Allah

Manx: You showed your ignorance again. Where did you get that information that Allah means " submission to God "? I am not a Muslim but praise the Lord, He has given me an unbias attitude towards other religion esp Islam. Allah came from the arabic al (The ) and ilah (god). In other words, it means The God. The God of the Muslims is the same God who sent all the prophets including Jesus.
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Jermin Savory**: I knew I was truthful in my speech when I said lastweek that you were the most humble catholic that I"ve came accross. My God bless your heart and increase you in knowledge.


#17

In the name of Allah

As a result of the Ammount of work that I’m faced with in the correcting of misconception on various forums including this one, I will not be giving this topic my heart and soul. Proud Kafir has pointed out various misconceptions about the islamic faith. I know the author who have hatched these misconceptions and lies about islam “Moon God Allah.” And I know the Muslim scholar who has corrected and answer these lies and misconceptions therefore Instead of Going point for point with Proud Kafir and others, I will list a few response to these claims.


#18

[quote=Jermin Savory]In the name of Allah

Jermin Savory
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: I knew I was truthful in my speech when I said lastweek that you were the most humble catholic that I"ve came accross. My God bless your heart and increase you in knowledge.

Thanks Jermin. I just do a lot of research and check both sides of the coin before judging. I admire your dedication and patience. I understand that is not easy nowadays for you guys to defend your religion. Please keep it up because many of us need to know more about the true teachings of Islam.

God Bless,

manx


#19

[quote=manx]You showed your ignorance again. Where did you get that information that Allah means " submission to God "? I am not a Muslim but praise the Lord, He has given me an unbias attitude towards other religion esp Islam. Allah came from the arabic *al *(The ) and ilah (god). In other words, it means The God. The God of the Muslims is the same God who sent all the prophets including Jesus.

manx
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Manx,

I believe he probably meant “Islam” means “submission to God” although he will have to correct himself on this. I do not know if the Muslims do in fact worship the same God. I don’t know how we could tell given the actions that are encouraged by some and tolerated by most Muslims. Judgment day will tell.

Sorry about my misidentifying you as a Muslim.

Dan L


#20

In the name of Allah

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ProudKafir**: Islam was born in Violence, Live in Violence, Will live in Violence until last human submit to Islam. Even then, Islam will not live peacefully, It will fight among itself. You See, Just within few years after Islam was introduced in Arabia in 6th Century, Muslim fought among themselves for the lust for power, money and 20000 muslims were killed in the name of Islam. Islam Can’t be reformed.

Jermin Savory: I find this weird how Proud Kafir is tring to imply that islam is violent when people enter islam because it is a peaceful religion. The method of this conclusion can easily be identified by just seeing that Proud kafir is judging from the handful of Muslims who are fighting in the name of islam. If this is the way we think, then every religion and every culture is violent. Every culture, background and religion have had bloody feuds in which sometimes resulted in Thousands of Dead people. For example, America went to war and Wiped out Thousands of Innocent people with Neuclear weapons, should we conclude that America is a violent place, or violent set of people? NO. Killings happen during war, Thousands of innocent people died in the war in the attack Against IraQ, are Americans bad for this? No. Its the specific person to be blame, not Americans as a whole. Likewise, we shouldn’t blame islam for the handful of wrong that some Muslims may have done.

De Lacy O’Leary in ‘Islam at the Crossroads,’ London, 1923.

"History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated."

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