There are several issues going on in this thread at the same time…converting to Islam, the poor stealing, the oppressed being quite and submitting to their oppressor, denying one’s God to prolong one’s life. So many issues and all falling away from scripture and the basis of the christian faith.
think you’re being insensitive to people who live in oppression. Suppose one of your loved ones were kidnapped and oppressed, I wouldn’t tell them to speak out and die. I would tell them to shut up, submit, and hope for the best.
But, if you are so sure you are willing to die for your faith, then maybe I should start addressing you as St Michael.
It takes a strong person and an extremely strong faith to die for that faith. I understand how someone could fold under the pressure and the fear of torture and loss of life under extreme circumstances, but if one’s faith is unfaltering, one will not deny his God. Matt: 10:26…“And do not be afraid of those that kill the body but cannot kill the soul; rather, be afraid of the one that can destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.”
But since Jesus in no god, in my opinion, so there is no basic contradiction in a follower of Jesus and a follower of Muhammad
In your opinion, paarsurrey, Jesus is no God, but in the christian faith, Jesus is God. He is the Son of a Triune God, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. That is our belief, and our scripture and our whole faith lies in the Resurrection of the Son of God. To deny Him is to deny one’s faith. John 5:22…“Nor does the Father judge anyone, but he has given all judgement to his Son, so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him.”
I think you’re being insensitive to poor people. Suppose you could not feed your children because you were poor. Would you steal to feed your children? I would.
I think this generalized statement is insensitive to the poor, to think that because of their being poor, it is okay to endorse the sin of stealing. Stealing is wrong. It is an “in your face truth.” It is a sin against the 7th Commandment - “You Shall Not Steal.” There are always extenuating circumstances that may make it necessary to take something not belonging to oneself, but I believe these times to be rare, at least in this country. The US has so many programs of assistance, and then there is always the church one can turn to for help. To steal is rarely necessary in this great nation. There is always work to be had, not matter how lowly one might feel about performing a specific task, when it comes to feeding your children. There is no work I would turn down to make sure my children were fed.
am an Ahmadi a peaceful Muslim. I think the last words of Jesus, My God ,My God, why have you forsaken me, seems to me being very close to what a Muslim would say rather than what a Catholic would say.
So a Muslim believes the same God whom Jesus called in tribulations on the Cross; and we won’t insist the Catholic to believe in the same God, except that they do it with their free will.
Ours is not the same God. We christians believe in a single God made up of three divinities, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. If your one God was the same as our one part of the Triune God, the Father, then we would have something in common, as would the jewish people. We would all be worshiping the same God…the Father, but this is not the case.
I am glad you are a peaceful muslim, for I am a peaceful christian. It is good that we can come together and talk, discuss our differences, and respect each other’s faith, and that is the way it should be if we want to live in peace. Unfortunately, many of the Islamic faith have been hyjacted by hatred and have vowed to murder innocents in the name of Allah. This kind of hatred is nothing new and has gone on for milennia. People take their faith and twist it into something it is not, a tool to be used against others they wish to conquer or kill because of a difference of opinion or belief. Even with all of this religious hatred and killings over religion, more people have sufferred death and torture by atheists than those killed in the name of religion.
May we all continue to grow in our faith and learn tolerance for each other. God bless.