[quote="Suspicious_Mind, post:17, topic:243024"]
Thread delivers, this is what I suspected. After I did some searching online, I figured the only way you got this kind of information was from some kind of source that spends their time nit-picking, and I was right. I wouldn't be surprised if they made it up, or exaggerated it and added their own words to it.
What could clearly be more objective than a completely biased, religious source dedicating their time to highlighting the evils of rock? :rolleyes:
I think you've indulged yourself to such a high-level of scrupulosity that you can no longer see the obvious right in front of you and have trouble discerning the distinction between pure bias and objective.
I reject your claim completely on the basis that it is biased (by your own presentation of the source). I have no reason to give a counter-claim, until a more neutral source of that claim is presented. If you have trouble coming to grips with this basic idea, I suggest you contact a priest on this board and ask him to give you a crash course on basic philosophy.
That's all I will have to say about this, good day.
Cordial greetings and a very good day. Thanyou for the above.
Surely, dear friend, you yourself are indulging in a little subjectivity when you assert that my source spends its time "nit-picking" and that you suspect them of inventing things and gross overstatement etc. Then you proceed to contemptuously dismiss it as a "biased religious source". What evidence can you adduce to support these unfounded claims, apart form your own very biased opinion? Indeed, the editors are "highlighting the evils of rock" and presenting a devastating exposure of this deplorable art form, and that was never going to prove a popular assignment. However, it was long overdue and I doff my hat them for having the courage to grapple with this very thorny issue within the contemporary Church. Personally I think their book, which is aimed at the popular market, is both riveting and illuminating and achieves exactly what it set out to do, notwithstanding some defects and blemishes. However, to traduce the authors because they do not hold to your position as regards rock/pop music, is totally uncalled for and uncharitable.
Regarding the issue of scrupulosity, or what used to be termed years ago being 'righteous overmuch', this I will concede can be a problem, especially if it develops into some sort of complusive disorder. However, that does not mean that there can never be a *healthy *scrupulosity or, if you please, a godly vigilance against anything which may present a threat to our spiritual life and the pursuit of holiness. That surely is plain common sense in a fallen world like ours where the Devil roams about seeking whom he may devour, especially the faithful.
Over-scrupulosity is very subjective thing because it revolves around what individual Christians deem to be unacceptable and what are considered to be forbidden pursuits and pleasures. Thus, for example, and individidual like myself who vehemently denounces rock and pop music would only be accused of over-scrupulosity by those who for polemical reasons profoundly disagree with, in their opinion, such, erroneous and 'prissy' standpoint. This proves very little and is actually what one would expect. Indeed, I would say, and do say, that those who rationalize debased sensory material are lax and are not living up to the arduous demands of a religious life, but then, men would expect me to make such a statement, given my passionate opposition to rock/pop music. Invariably the over-scrupulosity card is played by those who want nothing more than a stick to figuratively thrash their opponent and discredit them. Therefore, I do not think there is any milage in branding a man for alleged over-scrupulosity, since it all boils down to subjective and, not infrequently, biased opinion.
Having said that, dear friend, it admits of no doubt that if one is not on ones guard against evil and evil influences, then one is that more likely to be influenced by evil - that is not being over-scrupulous, merely being vigilant:
Help me to guard my precious soul
By active constant self-control.
Cleanse my thought, my speech, my play.
O Lord, keep me pure from day to day.
Thus, I think that most devout men would be agreed that we must needs have a healthy sense of scrupulosity, for we certianly need to remain vigilant and not grow lax.
This will be final posting for the time being as it is my custom to take a breather from the boards at weekends. Sorry that we have not seen eye to eye over this issue and just to assure you that I do not bear you, or any other poster with who I disagree, any ill-will.
Have a jolly splendid weekend, whatever you plan to do. Goodbye for now, dear friend.
Warmest good wishes,