Is Kaaba a Hindu Shrine?

THE INSIDE INFORMATION OF THE KAABAH

Dr. Muzammil Siddiqi is the president of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA). He had the opportunity to go inside the Kabah in October 1998. In an interview with Sound Vision, he described the following features: there are two pillars inside (others report 3 pillars) there is a table on the side to put items like perfume there are two lantern-type lamps hanging from the ceiling the space can accommodate about 50 people there are no electric lights inside the walls and floors are of marble there are no windows inside there is only one door the upper inside walls of the Kabah were covered with some kind of curtain with the Kalima written on it
The Kabah has been reconstructed up to 12 times. Scholars and historians say that the Kabah has been reconstructed between five to 12 times gradually over the period of time!!!
The very first construction of the Ka`bah was done by Prophet Adam (raa). Allah says in the Quran that this was the first house that was built for humanity to worship Allah.

The black stone at Kaaba is held sacred and holy in Islam and is called “Hajre Aswad” from the Sanskrit word Sanghey Ashweta or Non-white stone. The Shiva Lingam is also called Sanghey Ashweta. So what is in Kaaba could be the same what Hindus worship.

WONDER WHY IT IS PLACED IN THE CORNER AT THE TIP AND NOT IN SIDE THE KAABAH???
PLEASE NOTE THE DIRECTION OF THE HAJAR ASWAD

As per saivagamas and vedic scriptures all Shiva temples were constructed with Shivalinga facing the east. This can be seen even in every temples around the world today. Temple entrances will always face east or north east direction. As per vaastu this is also practiced where prayer room should always be in the north east part of the house with images of deities facing east. The entrance of the house should face east or north east. This is clearly seen with the placement of Hajar Aswad and the entrance of the Kaabah.

In pure scientific study about the Historical Muhammad raises basic questions concerning the prophet’s role as a moral paragon; the sources of Islamic law; and the God-given nature of the Koran. The scientists even doubt the existence of Muhammad. Scientists say that the Koran is a not a product of Muhammad or even of Arabia, but a collection of materials stitched together to meet the needs of a later age. There was no Islam until two or three hundred years after the traditional version at around 830CE. The Arab tribesmen who conquered in the seventh century vast territory were not Moslems, but were persons who worshiped idols and are scientists call them pagans.

Even though Prophet Muhammad was born in the full light of history the earliest document date about a century and a half after his death. Not only does this long lapse of time cast doubt on their accuracy, but internal evidence strongly suggests the Arabic sources were composed in the context of intense partisan quarrels over the prophet’s life. The earliest sources like papyri, inscriptions, and coins on the prophet’s life, contradict the standard biography. An inscription and a Greek account fix Muhammad’s birth in 552, not 570. Muhammad’s career took place not in Mecca but hundreds of kilometers to the north. Yehuda Nevo. The classical Arabic language was developed not in today’s Saudi Arabia but in the Levant. Long before Islam came in to existence, Kaaba, in Mecca in Saudi Arabia was a pilgrimage site. The word Kaaba might have come from the Tamil Language which originated around 1700BC. In Tamil Nadu Kabaalishwaran temple is Lord Shiva’s temple and Kabaali refers to Lord Shiva.

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The pedestal Maqam-E-Ibrahim at the centre of the Kaaba is octagonal in shape. In Hinduism, the pedestal of Brahma the creator is also octagonal in shape. Muslim pilgrims visiting the Kaaba temple go around it seven times. In no other mosque does the circumambulation prevail. Hindus invariably circumambulate or Pradakshina ( Girivalam which is still practiced in India especially in Thiruvannamalai for Kartigai ), around their deities. This is yet another proof that the Kaaba shrine is a pre-Islamic. In Shiva temples Hindus always practice circumambulation or Pradakshina. Just as in Hinduism, the custom of circumambulation by muslim pilgrims around the entire Kaaba building seven times shows that the claim that in Islam they don’t worship stones is not true.

The King Vikramaditya inscription was found on a gold dish hung inside the Kaaba shrine in Mecca, proving beyond doubt that the Arabian Peninsula formed a part of his Indian Empire. (Ref: page 315 of a volume known as ‘Sayar-ul-Okul’ treasured in the Makhtab-e-Sultania library in Istanbul, Turkey). King Vikrama’s preachers had succeeded in spreading the Vedic Hindu sacred scriptures in Arabia and Arabs were once followers of the Indian Vedic way of life. The annual fair known as OKAJ which used to be held every year around the Kaaba temple in Mecca and the present annual hajj of the Muslims to the Kaaba is of earlier pre-Islamic congregation.

Even to this day ancient Siva emblems can be seen. It is the Shankara (Siva) stone that Muslim pilgrims reverently touch and kiss in the Kaaba. Muslims shave their head and beard and don special sacred attire that consists of two seamless sheets of white cloth. One is to be worn round the waist and the other over the shoulders. Both these rites are remnants of the old Vedic practice of entering Hindu temples clean and with holy seamless white sheets. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, the Kaaba has 360 idols. Traditional accounts mention that one of the deities among the 360 destroyed when the place was stormed was that of Saturn; another was of the Moon and yet another was one called Allah. That shows that in the Kaaba the Arabs worshipped the nine planets in pre-Islamic days. In India the practice of ‘Navagraha’ puja, that is worship of the nine planets, is still in vogue. Two of these nine are Saturn and Moon. In India the crescent moon is always painted across the forehead of the Siva symbol. Since that symbol was associated with the Siva emblem in Kaaba it came to be grafted on the flag of Islam.

The Hindu Vedic letter in Sanskrit AUM “” if seen in a mirror one can see the Arabic numbers of 786 and this is the most sacred number for Muslims and copies of the Arabic Koran have the mysterious figure 786 imprinted on them. In their ignorance simply they do not realize that this special number is nothing more than the holiest of Vedic symbols misread and none of the Arabic scholar has been able to determine how they chose 786 as the sacred for them. In short muslims are also going around Siva Lingam at Kaaba, seven times as Hindus go around it seven times.
A few miles away from Mecca are a big signboard which bars the entry of any non-Muslim into the area. This is a reminder of the days when the Kaaba was stormed and captured solely for the newly established faith of Islam. The object in barring entry of non-Muslims was obviously to prevent its recapture. Kaaba is clothed in a black shroud. This custom also originated from the days when it was thought necessary to discourage its recapture by camouflaging it.
Another Hindu tradition associated with the Kaaba is that of the sacred stream Ganga (sacred waters of the Ganges river). According to the Hindu tradition Ganga is also inseparable from the Shiva emblem as the crescent moon. Wherever there is a Siva emblem, Ganga must co-exist. True to that association a sacred fount exists near the Kaaba. Its water is held sacred because it has been traditionally regarded as Ganga since pre-Islamic times (Zam-Zam water).

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faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52607

It is nothing new that Kaaba in pre-Muhammad time was a place of pagan idols

Even Muslims accept that tragedy, the only Hope they have is tracing the origins of Kaaba back to Abraham time

I don’t agree with that, historians also don’t agree, they are alone in that claim

“proud to be alone”, I could tragically say

  1. FIRST

Abraham and Ishmael never put foot in Mecca, just because it is impossible, i.e., It is geographically impossible.

Abraham was in Beersheba. How could he, a hundred-year-old man, with a slave girl and a small child have endured a trip to Mecca, nearly one thousand miles away and separated by rugged mountains and virtually impassible desert ?!

The Empty Quarter, the most harsh place on earth, How could a little child 3 years old, and a very old man pass through this desert ?

Empty Quarter

Abraham and Ishmael would have had superpowers

A OLD man and a little child traveling thousands of miles into harsh desert and montains, How could they ?

Little wonder the Islamic scriptures don’t bother to tell us how they accomplished this impossible voyage…

  1. SECOND

A Jew is defined as a person of the Hebrew religion of Judaism and of Hebrew parents (especially the mother).

It has to be a combination of both ? Judaism and Hebrew parentage. Seen in another angle ; a person, cannot be a Jew and also a Muslim at the same time. How can he be practicing two faiths ? Judaism and Islam (which contradicts, and is opposite beliefs to each other) ?

In other words, a Muslim cannot be a Jew, and a Jew cannot be a Muslim. There is no such thing, as a Muslim Jew ? or Jewish Muslim ?.

It is that simple.

  1. THIRD

ABRAHAM & FAMILY TOMB

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_of_the_Patriarchs

In Machpelah - The Cave of Machpelah, Tomb of the Patriarch

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_of_the_Patriarchs

It is curious enough that the direction of Abraham, his family and descendants all laid to rest, nicely in a row with their feet pointing in a 155 degrees, in a south/south-east direction, directly to Mecca (Kaaba).

YES, GO SEE WITH YOUR OWN EYES

Archeologists and scientists, says that this is probably because of the way the Machpelah cave is situated.

Why are Abraham, etc, laid to rest with their feet pointing to the Kaaba ?

Isn’t it an insult to Allah’s God-House Kaaba, for them who Allah claims are Muslims to show their feet to the Kaaba ?

Showing the feet, is an insult in Asian cultures ?

  1. FOURTH

Kaaba a Hindu Temple?

hinduism.co.za/kaabaa.htm

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a old post of mine in here :

formermuslims.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3003&p=24019#p24019

hello every body

I don't understand the purpose of bringing forward a 2 year old dead thread about the kabba only to say "hello"....?? :confused:

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I don't understand the purpose of bringing forward a 2 year old dead thread about the kabba only to say "hello"....?? :confused:

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He's trying to be friendly on this Feast of Sts. Peter and Paul.

Being it is his 1st post, CAF offers the “meet & greet” section as an introduction …

~ have a good day ~

Christians claiming that the holy Kaaba is "pagan" seems very similar to me to when others claim that Xmas and Easter are really "pagan" holidays....Christians don't like it nor believe that they are pagan...they may have their origins in paganism but "changed" to "Christian" feasts when Christianity became the dominant religion.

As I understand it, Muslims believe that the rock was the same rock upon which Abraham was going to sacrifice his son. THAT is one of the meanings of the rock now...it may not have always been so....December 25th IS Christmas Day according to the West....it may have been the Saturnalia at one time or the celebration of Sol Invictus....BUT NOW it is Christmas.

I choose to allow each religious tradition the right to ascribe whatever meanings they choose to a place or artifact or date of a celebration to mean what it does within their own religious tradition...it may have other meanings in history and different historical origins than what the religious tradition now give it.

Many Christian feasts and holidays have their origin in pagan belief but were appropriated by Christians and given new meanings....I think Muslims have the same right to redefine "holy" items within their own tradition.

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