[quote=rfk]A “gravely disordered action” is always a grave sin.
[quote=Cary Melvin]It is? Always?
Yes, it always is.
[quote=Cary Melvin]I would consider the sudden urge to stand out in the middle of a interstate highway jumping up and down and screaming your head off a “gravely disordered action”.
You are using the words as if they are everyday language. However, they have a very specific meaning when discussing theology and morality.
Assuming you are not putting you life at risk, acting like a fool is not a “gravely disordered action”. A “gravely disordered action” is an action, first of all. An action is either “ordered” or “disordered”. An ordered action means it is an action consistent with the Will of God and natural law. A disordered action goes against natural law and is sinful. A disordered action can be minor or grave (meaning serious).
A “gravely disordered action” is one which is always objectively wrong and serious. Performing an abortion. Performing homsexual acts. These acts are always unacceptable, regardless of the circumstances, and are serious or grave matters.
[quote=Cary Melvin]I believe that masterbation is a sin, but I don’t think that it would always be a grave matter. It would depend on the situation. Wouldn’t it?
That is the mistake of Relativism. Masturbation is always a gravely disordered action, always a grave matter.
However, it appears you do not understand the distinction between grave matters, which are sinful in the very character of the act, and a mortal sin. A grave sin is always a grave sin regardless of knowledge or intent. However, to be a mortal sin requires the grave sin to be accompanied by full knowledge and consent of the will.