Is the "certification of homosexuality" movement largely a Western phenomenon?

I ask this because it seems popular among leaders in the U.S. and many European nations, but has not had as profound an effect, say in Russia or Africa.

For now at least I think it is very much a Western movement.

Color me ignorant, but I’ve never heard of this “certification.” Please clarify for those of us who don’t know about it. Thanks.

I was wondering the same.
I just keep getting a picture in my mind of a “homosexual certification” card for people’s wallets. I know that is not what it means but I am a little confused also.

It represents a long list of groups that are national and international. No certification is occurring, just showmanship.


Certification meaning governments passing various laws claiming the legitimacy or normalcy of that lifestyle, such as calling such unions “marriage.”

The Hidden Danger of Same-Sex Marriage:

In recent years, the Gay Rights movement has made tremendous headway to legalize same-sex marriage in several states by chanting sugary slogans such as “it’s just love” and “civil rights for all.” Such seemingly harmless mantras resonate positively with libertarian, left-wing American ideologues, yet deceptively mask the LGBT movement’s darker, ulterior motives.

Beneath the melodious rhetoric of the LGBT movement is a grandiose plan to require all American public schools to teach impressionable prepubescent children that homosexual partnerships and intercourse are not only legal but an equally valid, healthy, and socially acceptable alternative to heterosexuality.

Justifying the use of taxpayer money to introduce and normalize homosexuality in public schools is nearly impossible in states where same-sex marriage is illegal. LGBT leaders know that, and it partly explains why they’re fiercely pushing for same-sex-marriage.

So, what’s the harm in teaching the next generation that homosexuality is a valid alternative to heterosexuality? A preponderance of scientific research reveals that gay sex, in terms of health and safety, is actually not a valid alternative. The danger of practicing deviant sexual relations is evident in the massive number of sexually active gays who have tragically died or suffered from HIV and AIDS in the past thirty years.

Unfortunately, the onslaught of infections continues to this day. For instance, in December of 2012, the U.S Centers for Disease Control and Prevention - an independent, non-partisan governmental organization- released data that showed HIV infections “had remained steady in the general public between 2008 and 2010, [while] infections had risen by an incredible 22 percent in young gay men.” (U.S News, Flock, July 3 2013)

Moreover, “Gay men represented two-thirds of new infections. And nearly 6,000 gay men were dying of AIDS every year.”

Despite Hollywood’s positive and glamorous portrayal of homosexual couples in sitcoms and films, the CDC revealed a less flattering exposé by stating, **“If HIV continues to spread at its current rates, more than half of college-aged gay men will have HIV by the age of 50.” **(U.S News, Flock, July 3 2013)

With millions of dollars being channeled to pro-gay marketing firms, political action campaigns, and sympathetic media outlets, the LGBT movement has successfully popularized the notion that sodomy between two men poses the same health risks as vaginal intercourse between a man and a woman. The LGBT movement knows that that popular perception is a myth, yet unconscionably perpetuates it to advance its same-sex marriage, and homosexuality-in-the-schools agenda, at the potential cost of millions of lives.

Indeed HIV and AIDS are significantly more common among homosexual men not because these virulent diseases are homophobic/prejudicial, but because the architecture of the human rectum was not designed for penile penetration rather for bowel evacuation. In addition, unlike the female genital canal, the anus did not evolve with built-in cellular properties to protect the male body from this deadly virus.

The LGBT movement is very aware of the disproportionate HIV/AIDS epidemic among the gay community, yet it continues to leverage its enormous political and financial power to uphold the Disneyesque fantasy that sexually active gay couples are just as healthy and functional as their heterosexual counterparts.

How will the legalization of same-sex marriage affect your family?

If same-sex marriage is made legal in your state – public schools will be legally required to teach your sons, grandsons, nephews etc. that homosexuality is a socially acceptable and equal alternative to heterosexuality. To avoid costly discrimination or defamation lawsuits from gay parents or federal and state authorities, school educators will deliberately avoid teaching the true health risks of male-to-male sodomy. Without knowledge of the full risks of MSM sodomy, the young male members of your family may feel recreational anal sex is safe enough to try, and by trying it just once, they could tragically join the fifty percent of young American gay men who are projected to contract HIV by the age of 50.

If you believe in freedom, then free your mind from the media elite’s false propaganda and politically-correct mythology, and purify it with pristine truth. If you’re motivated by justice, then advocate against the LGBT movement’s harmful crusade to promote high-risk homosexual behavior to our nation’s children. And if love guides your heart, then show love for your brethren by demanding LGBT leaders to place human life over political aggrandizement by making HIV/AIDS – not marriage- their first and foremost priority.

May peace be with you!


Flock, Elizabeth. Gay Community Won Battles on Marriage, But May Be Losing the War on HIV/AIDS. U.S News, 3 July. 2013. Web. 9 July. 2013. ‹ >

You are right. If LGBT persons say they want what they call marriage and get it in their state, kids are the next automatic target. Parents are not notified if kids as young as 5 are getting gay storybooks at their school.

By not being notified, the rights of parents are overturned - automatically.

It’s one thing to claim a certain group wants ‘marriage equality’ and after they get their license, go home, go to work, mow the lawn, etc. No. This is outright propaganda. Parents have the right to know what’s going on with their kids. The State has NO business in automatically cutting them off from their kids at school and teaching them about such a risky way of life. It’s wrong.


The “gay” activists will never be satisfied. First they demanded “civil unions”. When they got that, it wasn’t enough so they demanded marriage to be redefined. Although governments are giving them what they want, it bothers them that the Catholic Church is not going to cave to their demands. So they stage naked protests at the Vatican, invade and disrupt holy Masses, and burn Vatican flags in protest despite the fact that there are thousands of other religions that will tell them the lies they want to hear.

Well, that’s been the lie since the start of the Sex without love Revolution which switched into high gear in 1968. Pleasure was job one. Get lots of sex from whoever. The Church? That backwards, old, irrelevant place? They’ll be gone soon. Why? BECAUSE WE GOT FREEDOM!!!

And the other lie? YOU CAN’T CONTROL YOURSELF. You. Yes, you, Have ZERO control over sex. That’s why you gotta buy pills and condoms and IUDs and spermicidal foam and get an abortion if all of the above fails because you can’t control yourselves. And that’s why I heard some people who claimed some authority tell parents in the 70s and 80s, “Oh just put your kids on the pill now. We all know they’re going to do it.”

Yeah, it took decades. And the fruit of it? Masturbation addicts, porn addicts, sex addicts. Relationships? No thanks. I’ll just take the sex part. Like two dogs in an alley. When you’re done, just walk away. And kids? What a pain. 18 and out!!

If you look at the real problems in Western society, it’s people risking their lives over sex. Homosexuals and heterosexuals - no, no one is perfect - but who is in charge of your body? And if we are slaves to our flesh then we are slaves and have no freedom (!).


And this “freedom” of the so-called “sexual revolution” led to the AIDS epidemic in which, according to the CDC, actively homosexual men are 44 to 86 times more likely to become infected with HIV than heterosexual men.

“1 in 5 Gay/Bi Men Have HIV, Nearly Half Don’t Know” - WebMD

AIDS Timeline:

“1981 -CDC reports first cases of rare pneumonia in young gay men – later determined to be AIDS-related – in June 5 Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR). This marks the official beginning of the HIV/AIDS epidemic.” - CDC

“Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM) represent approximately 2% of the US population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2010, MSM accounted for 63% of all new HIV infections” – CDC

“Disparities in HIV infection also exist between gay and bisexual men and heterosexual populations. Recently, the CDC announced that gay and bisexual men in the United States are 44 to 86 times more likely to become infected with HIV than heterosexual men, and 40 to 77 times more likely to become infected than women.” – Obama

“In research with 942 nonclinical adult participants, gay men and lesbian women reported a significantly higher rate of childhood molestation than did heterosexual men and women. Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation. Twenty-two percent of lesbian women in contrast to 1% of heterosexual women reported homosexual molestation. This research is apparently the first survey that has reported substantial homosexual molestation of girls. Suggestions for future research were offered.” - California School of Professional Psychology

CDC HIV/AIDS Global Epidemic Timeline
CDC - CDC Global HIV/AIDS Milestones - Global HIV/AIDS at CDC - Global HIV/AIDS
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
President Obama’s National HIV/AIDS Strategy for the the the United States 2010 White House Report
California School of Professional Psychology

This is true of STDs in general.

"Today, there are approximately 25 STDs. A few can be fatal. Many women are living in fear of what their future may hold as a result of STD infection. It is estimated that 1 in 5 Americans between the ages of 15 and 55 are currently infected with one or more STDs, and 12 million Americans are newly infected each year. That’s nearly 5% of the entire population of the U.S. Of these new infections, 63% are in people less than 25 years old.

“This epidemic is a recent phenomenon. Some young people have parents who may have had multiple sexual partners with relative impunity. They may conclude that they too are safe from disease. However, most of these diseases were not around 20 to 30 years ago. Prior to 1960 [emphasis mine], there were only two significant sexually transmitted diseases: syphilis and gonorrhea. Both were easily treatable with antibiotics. In the sixties and seventies this relatively stable situation began to change. For example, in 1976, chlamydia first appeared in increasing numbers in the United States. Chlamydia, particularly dangerous to women, is now the most common STD in the country. Then in 1981, human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), the virus which causes AIDS, was identified. By early 1993, between 1 and 2 million Americans were infected with AIDS, over 12 million were infected worldwide, and over 160,000 had died in the U.S. alone. Over 10% of the total U.S. population, 30 million people, are infected with herpes.”


I hope the ‘sexual pleasure at all costs’ mentality dies a quick death.


Grace & Peace!

Ed, given your opposition to same-sex marriage, I feel you should know that what I’ve quoted above comes across as very ironic.

Most same-sex attracted folks that I know of who desire to get married (or who are already married) do so (or have done so) in order to more clearly and (hopefully) definitively stabilize their relationship–i.e., they get married for the sake of their relationship. In the face of all of the sexual immorality you justly decry here, the desire to marry the person you love is actually a considerably conservative movement away from licentiousness and libertinage and toward the kind of stable loving relationship which tends to humanize us.

[Granted, I’m sure some married couples (both gay and straight) marry with the idea that their relationship will be “open.” I can’t say I have much good to say about such arrangements (whether gay or straight). But either way, they’re far from normative.]

At any rate, it’s fine to say that homosexual activity and its widespread acceptance is part of a larger cultural movement toward sexual liberality which is disturbing. But to see the push for same-sex marriage as part of that liberality is to confuse a couple different fronts of the culture war by deeply misunderstanding or cynically misconstruing why same-sex attracted folks would want to get married in the first place.

Indeed, if one of the essential elements of marriage is, according to the Book of Common Prayer, to provide “a remedy against sin, and to avoid fornication; that such persons as have not the gift of continency might marry, and keep themselves undefiled members of Christ’s body,” then same-sex marriage is one way to provide same-sex attracted people with the same sort of remedy for sexual incontinence that has hitherto been available to heterosexuals. I would imagine that same-sex marriage has the potential to help combat the culture of sexual liberality…if the heterosexual divorce culture doesn’t completely infect SSM and undo whatever good it might be capable of doing in the “gay” community.

Under the Mercy,

All is Grace and Mercy! Deo Gratias!

Some children are being raised by LGBT parents. These children are in school with children who are being raised straight parents. That is a fact. Children should be taught facts. Teaching children about the world around them is not propaganda. Your way, however, is most assuredly a dangerous and irresponsible form of censorship.

There is no “heterosexual divorce culture.” “Infect”? What a nonsense thing to say. It’s just like the “some straights think that being around gay people will make them gay.” Next, LGBT activists want what they call marriage as normative. All I’m hearing about is the benefits package. How do you know how many gay men will behave like some heterosexuals? You have no way of knowing that. These are all personal decisions. Everyone, including LGBT persons, is different.


No. Gay sex is not normative and the principal of any public school had better tell his parents before handing him a gay storybook.

Dangerous? You know what’s dangerous? Teaching propaganda to children and taking away a parent’s right to opt his son out. Instead - it is a non-parental notification issue. Says who?


Deo Volente,

So-called same-sex marriage is a lie. And a lie endorsed and enforced by the government is still a lie. SSM is not the same thing as a heterosexual marriage. If it were the same thing why would they be against marrying the opposite sex? When God created the world He made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. And when God made Eve He made her as Adam’s wife. And every one of us, including every homosexual, is the biological product of this union between one man one woman whether they knew their mother and father or not. SSM is a doctrine of demons, it is not from God. SSM is opposed to biology, the way our bodies were made, and opposed to God. Our God is not a god of confusion.

Teaching the legitimacy of homosexual behavior is not teaching kids about the “world” if that’s what you are trying to say.

The book read in kindergarten was not about gay sex. You cease to be convincing when you are unfamiliar with the very example you cite.

Parenting is a homosexual behavior? Marriage is a homosexual behavior? Being a family is a homosexual behavior?

The book was promoting so-called “same-sex marriage” which necessarily means a homosexual relationship. Here’s a link I found that tells about the book:

Homosexual activist taunts Christians gathered near US Supreme Court building during “gay marriage” arguments.

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