Is there a name for this heresy?


#1

I know a fallen away Catholic who was in the Worldwide Church of God until the founder died and the denomination split repeatedly until he became a denomination of himself and one other guy. :confused:

In any case, he denies that the Holy Spirit is one of the persons of the Trinity. The way he describes the Holy Spirit is like a projection of the power of God. His description reminded me of the scene from Raiders of the Lost Ark where the Ark is opened and bolts of lightning jump from person to person. :shrug:

Is there a historical heresy that denies the personage of the Holy Spirit?


#2

Well, I know that there are groups out there that claim that the Holy Spirit isn’t God. That it (or is it a He?) is just God’s force or whatever they want to call it. But I don’t think I’ve heard of a term used for it as a heresy. Which, to me, it is heresy. It goes against what the bible says. Right now I can’t think of the verse, but it says that “there are three; Father, Son and Holy Spirit. And these three are one.”


#3

Jesus did I think command His apostles to Baptise them in the Name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. It does say it in the New Testament.
No, I do not know the name of the heresy.


#4

A Google search has provided no insight…although I got a quick refresher on Arianism, Modalism, and Patripassianism :wink:
I wonder, does On Heresies have a table of contents? :wink:


#5

I am a competent Google expression former and immediately found the following:

I think you are referring to Monarchianism.
More here: carm.org/heresy/monarchianism.htm
and here: religion-cults.com/heresies/second.htm

Monarchianism (mono - “one”; arche - “rule”) was an error concerning the nature of God that developed in the second century A.D. It arose as an attempt to maintain Monotheism and refute tritheism. Unfortunately, it also contradicts the orthodox doctrine of the Trinity. Monarchianism teaches that there is one God as one person: the Father. The Trinity is that there is one God in three persons: Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Trinity is monotheistic, not polytheistic as some of its critics like to assert. Monarchians were divided into two main groups, the dynamic monarchians and the modal monarchians.
**Dynamic Monarchianism teaches that God is the Father and that Jesus is only a man, denied the personal subsistence of the Logos and taught that the Holy Spirit was a force or presence of God the Father. Present day groups in this category are the Jehovah’s Witnesses, Christadelphians, and Unitarians. **Additionally, some ancient dynamic monarchianists were also known as Adoptionists who taught that Jesus was tested by God and after passing this test and upon His baptism, He was granted supernatural powers by God and adopted as the Son. Ancient teachers of dynamic monarchianism were Theodotians, a Tanner in Byzantium around 190 A.D., and Paul of Samosata a bishop of Antioch in Syria around 260 AD.
Modal monarchianism teaches that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are just modes of the single person who is God. In other words, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not simultaneous and separate persons, but consecutive modes of one person. Praxeas, a priest from Asia Minor, taught this in Rome around 200 AD. Modern groups in this general category are the Oneness Pentecostal groups known as the United Pentecostal and United Apostolic Churches. However, the present day modalists maintain that God’s name is Jesus. They also require baptism “in Jesus’ name” not “in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit” for salvation.

James


#6

What does Monarchianism say about the Logos?


#7

I honestly don’t know Spirithound since I do not spend any significant time deeply studying known heresies other than Protestantism. It’s rather clear to me that Monarchianism is a very superficial and low brow and non-intellectual view of Christology. I doubt that they have given any deeper consideration to the more heady concepts of John’s Greek and Catholic philosophy and spiritual insights. All one need to do see the error of Monarchianism is see how it completely ignores the scripture verses that imply the trinity in baptism. It should not be surprising though since this came out of the 2nd century and the advocates may not have had a comprehensive view of scripture since it was not yet cannon. It is cleat to me that God used such heresies to compel the early church to develop canon to put down this sort of nonsense.

James


#8

That is very close. He believes the Father is God and that Jesus is God. That rules out monarchianism.


#9

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