So, as we’re all Catholic answers fans, perhaps you’ve come across this article on their site:
It seemed excellent and used it in debating an acqauintance. He found fault with the following quote on that page:
Cyprian of Carthage
“The Lord says to Peter: ‘I say to you,’ he says, ‘that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church.’ . . . On him [Peter] he builds the Church, and to him he gives the command to feed the sheep [John 21:17], and although he assigns a like power to all the apostles, yet he founded a single chair [cathedra], and he established by his own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. Indeed, the others were that also which Peter was *, but a primacy is given to Peter, whereby it is made clear that there is but one Church and one chair. So too, all [the apostles] are shepherds, and the flock is shown to be one, fed by all the apostles in single-minded accord. If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he [should] desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church?” (The Unity of the Catholic Church 4; 1st edition [A.D. 251]).
But he came across this version instead, which not only does not confirm the Catholic perspective but seems to speak against it:
A]nd although after His resurrection He bestows equal power upon all the Apostles, and says: ‘As the Father has sent me, I also send you. Receive ye the Holy Spirit: if you forgive the sins of anyone, they will be forgiven him; if you retain the sins of anyone, they will be retained,’ yet that He might display unity, He established by His authority the origin of the same unity as beginning from one. Surely the rest of the Apostles also were that which Peter was, endowed with an equal partnership of office and of power.
His objections were astonishing and seem fairly intact:
Well lets focus on on the quote by Cyprian of Carthage in his work The Unity of the Catholic Church since that is the strongest quote for primacy pre-schism. I looked it up and found the Christian Classics Ethereal Library translation that is radically different than your translation. This Catholic translation from Eternal Word Television Network ewtn.com/faith/teachings/churc1.htm
also disagrees with your translation. This source, another Catholic source, also disagrees with your translation: newadvent.org/fathers/050701.htm This issue is explained in the Encyclopedia Britannica article on St. Cyprian, he wrote two drafts of chapter 4 where it talks about Peter’s Primacy, as the article says he did not accept Rome’s jurisdictional prerogatives. Thus your draft is the one in error: britannica.com/EBchecked/top … #ref109285
So really, it’s hard to see how, in spite of all that, the quote on the list could be correct. If even EWTN puts it differently, and the Encyclopedia, then *well. And if so, that makes one rather worried about the entire list. Is this list a reliable tool? Thank you.