Is "Unlucky" a word that Jesus, Mary or the angels will use in their speech?


#1

There are many modern words which Jesus, Mother Mary or the angels won’t use when they address the sinners. For example, Jesus won’t say congratulations, keep it up, disintegrate your team, etc.

I wonder if the word “Luck” or “Unlucky” is appropriate. Also, since we are on the topic of “luck”, do you think that this is unacceptable for a catholic to believe in good and bad luck?

Edit: I am referring to visions of Jesus/Mary/Angels revealing knowledge to modern 21st century mystics like Saint Faustina.


#2

This is a strange post.
I’ll bet Jesus said “congratulations!” to the married couple at Cana when he arrived for their wedding feast.


#3

Not really strange. Knowing the type of language used could help us discern whether the entity talking to us is really Jesus or a fallen angel disguised as Jesus OR just our imagination. :upside_down_face:


#4

Luck is a belief some people have that is akin to fortunes horoscopes etc.

Luck takes God out of the conversation and attributes success or actions to chance.

Luck is not a word a Christian should be using.


#5

So I guess the entity that was speaking to me in my dream is not from God.


#6

Superstition is not compatible with Catholicism. Though I think people tend to loosely use the word “luck” with good or bad circumstances, the same way “fortune” is said in the bible.

Though if Jesus, Mary or the Angels were in an apparition deemed worthy of belief by the Church (like the Divine Mercy or Fatima) I’m certain their wordage would be very carefully chosen – correct, clear and deliberate.


#7

Yes, I don’t understand why “congratulation” is listed as a possible inappropriate word. As I understand the word, it is an expression of mutual joy (in speaker and in the one addressed) on the occasion of some good moment or event.


#8

So it would challenge our faith if we were to believe that one day Mary came back from drawing water, and said to Joseph: “I was lucky today - the well wasn’t very crowded?”


#9

I had to really think hard about this one. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that it’s typically used as sort of a ‘pat on the back’, so it might be seen as leading to pride. If someone is always congratulating you for ‘a job well done’ it might tend to puff you up, which hinders humility. In regards to a wedding it might be seen as patting someone on the back for ‘doing the right thing’, which we should all be doing every day, anyway. Maybe I’m grasping at straws, but it’s the best I could come up with for why it would be on anyone’s ‘list’. It’s also used to express pleasure that someone has had “good fortune” (which is also related to ‘luck’).

As far as Jesus or Mary are concerned, I tend to think they would be more inclined to say something like, “May God richly bless your marriage for years to come.”, or something like that.


#10

I sincerely doubt that Mary would say anything like that. She didn’t believe in “luck”, she believed in God. I could maybe picture Mary saying something like, “Thank God there weren’t so many women at the well this morning!”, though.


#11

Yes she and St Joseph had great faith and trust in God. I can only imagine the dangers along the way to Egypt how many times they must have been helped from above not only to get to Egypt without dying of hunger or thirst along the way but also once they got there hep to live among the hostile pagans.


#12

Well, they won’t use “you know” every other word (because it will be a given, after death, wherever one is, that one will know.

And perhaps we will be free of the ubiquitous start of every sentence by those under 40 with, "So".

And I can’t imagine Jesus saying, on accident or between you and I; or splitting infinitives. (Splitting infinity, maybe).


#13

Yup. It’s easier than saying, “Wow, he’s having unfortunate circumstances “.


#14


#15

Talk to your priest or spiritual director about this.

It was probably just a dream, especially if it was speaking colloquially. But speak to someone about your situation.


#16

Awwww… I so miss Father Corapi, God bless him.

I did LOL at that pic, though. Thank you for that! :wink:


#17

i agree. instead of saying good luck to someone, it might be better to say you pray they will have a safe journey or pray for them to get a job or pray they find what they are looking for.


#18

Congratulations is a worldly language which Jesus, Mary or angels will not use when they communicate with the modern generation.


#19

Yes, too many strange dreams nowadays. At least for me.


#20

“Luck” implies random chance, seeming to remove both God and the natural consequences of human action/inaction from the equation.

“Luck” or chance was used in the casting of lots for our Lord’s garments at the crucifixion. I rather doubt that He, Who knows all things, is very big on the concept.


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