[quote="Hypatia, post:5, topic:190755"]
I'm not very clear on what either of your posts have to do with the original post, BUT if you are so concerned about the lack of freedoms in Egypt, I would suggest that you tell the American government to use all that money it is spending to prop up the Mubarak dictatorship to push for some changes on those issues.
In any case, if you had read the story, you would see that the company that is going to fire the Egyptian journalists is non-Egyptian and its goals, under its current management, seem to be inimical to those of the Egyptian government.
Well, first the OP seems to be centered on the rise of Wahabi influence in Egypt, and how that is threatening freedoms there.
I assumed then that it would be appropriate to show some concern for the freedoms of Egypt, since the 'concern of the OP seemed to be directly connected to the issue of how conservative forces in Egypt were skewing the society onto an rather radical bent.
I never disagreed with this at all. In fact, in several of the threads on Islam that you have been starting, I have stressed the insidious influence that Salafi petro-dollars has been having in Islamic culture.
I also stress that the there is enough fertile grounds for this kind of illiberal influence in Egypt without Salafi influence. My two posts with links give the local and regional context of this.
Somehow,your reaction to idea that Egypt's problems with freedom are indigeneous too, and not all attributable to Wahabbi or American influence, is informative too. To paraphrase your own words, it doesn't take much imagination to note that heavy-handed court action in which a scholar is forced into divorce over his critique of Islam is already rather out of sync with the idea of intellectual freedom I the House Of Islam, even before Salafi influence arrives.
You seemed to be interested in the idea of freedom, so I offered my two cents, with the little bit of context that I knew.
I guess what I became more interested in is how your reaction to these outrages against freedom became defensive, according to whether the outrage was indigenous to Egypt or from the outside. One would think that if freedom was the main interest, the examples I pointed out would have created a meeting of the minds between us rather than the defensive posturing it did elicit.
Mubarak is the leader because the radicals shot Sadat, the man with the audacity to make peace with Israel. America supports Mubarak as a condition of his maintaining that peace with Israel.
If Egyptians do not like this, Obama may well be their man. He is no Jew lover himself.
The question is who will be there to pick up the pieces, if Mubarak is ever abandoned or overthrown.......
the Wahabis,.... or the Iranians?