Islamic Religion and the Blessed Mother


#1

question,
What is the history and connection the Islamic religion has with the Blessed Mother?


#2

i’m not sure exactly, but i know that most muslims seem to have more reverence for Mary than protestants do. she was the mother of someone who they consider to be a great prophet (i think number 2 behind muhammad himself).


#3

I believe Mohammed himself considered the Blessed Mother the greatest of womankind, and today Muslims hold her in the same high esteem. I have even heard that they accept her Immaculate Conception and the Virgin Birth of Jesus. It is a fascinating topic.


#4

[quote=Rand Al’Thor]i’m not sure exactly, but i know that most muslims seem to have more reverence for Mary than protestants do. she was the mother of someone who they consider to be a great prophet (i think number 2 behind muhammad himself).
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I’m no expert on Islam, so take this with a grain of salt, but I’ve been told that in some respects, Muslims consider Jesus to have been an even greater prophet than Mohammed. Jesus is viewed as sinless, born of a virgin, the whole deal. The problem, they say, isn’t with Jesus – it’s with the people who mangled his message, which made it necessary for the imperfect Mohammed to follow along behind and try to fix our mistakes.

In a way, it’s almost as if Jesus was too perfect, and we couldn’t understand him properly, so it took Mohammed, a sinner like the rest of us, to clarify things.

But like I say, this isn’t based on my own study of Islam, it’s just something I’ve been told. It may be totally incorrect.


#5

For muslims the Virgin Mary and Jesus are the same, prophets


#6

I read this book about Islam and their view on Jesus Christ. It says that Jesus is not God based on the Bible passages. For example, it says that Christ does not know when is judgement day, therefore, he’s not God. Why Jesus kept on calling Father if he’s God. It says Allah is God because it was God Himself who talked to Mohammed. It also says that Jesus did not die on the cross. Whoever was hanging there wasn’t him. They have no real explanation on who it was. So, Jesus was another prophet.


#7

[quote=sugardumplin]question,
What is the history and connection the Islamic religion has with the Blessed Mother?
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In the internet, the connection between Mohamedanism and The Blessed Virgin Mary is the VIRGIN BIRTH OF OF ISA (JESUS).

In the Mohamedan version, Mary went to give birth. When she returned people were slandering her, for being a woman who gave birth to a son who is not Joseph’s.

In the time of Mohamed ( which is about 600 years later), Mohamed defended the Virgin Birth against the slanderers. Mohamed said that the infant (Isa to Muslims, Jesus to Christians) SPOKE AND DEFENDED HIS MOTHER AGAINST THE SLANDERERS. (SINCE THE INFANT SPOKE, THE IMPLICATION IS THAT IT HAD TO BE A MIRACLE AND WHAT THE CHILD SAID IS TRUE!!! SO IN THE MOHAMEDAN VERSION OF MOHAMED(MAHOMET) HIMSELF, JESUS DID NOT HAVE A HUMAN FATHER, THEREFORE JESUS WAS BORN OF A VIRGIN MOTHER!!!)


#8

If I am not mistaken, to Muslims, Mary is “Maryam” and Joseph is “Youseuf or Yousef”


#9

Below is a Muslim link showing (at bottom half of article) what Muslims believe about Jesus Christ and the Blessed Virgin Mother.

muhammad.net/mnstc/mnstc5.htm


#10

An account wonderfully worth reading of ther recent miracle which the Mother of God gave to a Muslim and his family!

This is from the Abbot Father Ignatios of the Holy Monastery of the Shepherds, Bet Ahur-Bethlehem, in which a miracle of the Mother of God took place during Holy & Great Lent, March 2005 in Syria.

This is **“The Miracle in Syria” **

In December 2004 a Saudi Arabian man, a Moslem, appeared before several new agencies to relate the following incredible event he experienced and which changed his life (this story appeared on TV, the Internet, radio, and was circulated in newspapers, magazines, and pamphlets throughout Saudi Arbia, Syria, Palestine, and evidently in all neighboring countries.

 Some years ago, this man married a very rich Moslem woman but sterile. As the years passed, and despite all their efforts and significant medical expenses with many doctors, they remained childless. The man's parents suggested to him that he marry a second woman, while upholding his initial marriage (as the local laws permits up to four concurrent marriages).

 Being exhausted, worried, and downhearted, he did not accept his parents' advice but rather chose to vacation with his wife in Syria. There, they hired a limousine with a driver who would serve as tour guide fro all their site-seeing excursions throughout Syria. As the vacation progressed, the driver noticed that the Saudi Arabian couple was experiencing bitterness, pain, and grief. Having gained familiarity with the couple, the driver cautiously asked them whey they appeared to be so unhappy-was it perhaps because he was not conducting the tour to their satisfaction?

 The couple confided to the driver that the source of their unhappiness was their inability to have children. The driver who was also a Moslem, then told them that in Syria the Christians, specifically the Orthodox Christians, have a monastery named Panagia Saidraya (Arabic word meaning Our Lady) and that many people who can't have children take refuge to Her miracle-producing icon. They go to the monastery and there they are given to eat, the wick form the lamp which burns before the miraculous icon. And then the "Mary" of the Christians gives them according to their faith, what they wish for.

 Becoming excited, the Saudi Arabian and his wife asked the driver to take them to the monastery "Saidnaya" of "The Lady of the Christians" and said that if we have a child, then I will come back and I will give you $20,000.00 US and, I will give the monastery $80,000 US. So they went to the monastery and did as they were instructed. Later they returned to their homeland and after some time the wife was found pregnant. In a few months she gave birth to a charming baby boy. It was truly a miracle of Our Lady Mother of God.

 Now, as soon as his wife gave birth the Saudi Arabian man wanted to return to Syria to uphold the promises he had made. Upon his return he called the same driver and asked to be picked up at the Damascus airport. But the driver was cunning and wicked and he persuaded two of his friends to go to the airport with him to pick up the rich Saudi Arabian man and to take his money and kill him. So they picked up the rich man at the airport and he, as they drove, without realizing that they had planned to kill him, told the friends of the driver that he would give them also $10,000 US each.

 These men still not satisfied, deviated from the route to the monastery and went to a deserted place and proceeded to slay the Saudi Arabian man and to cut off his head and other parts (hands and legs) of his body into pieces. Blinded by passion and overcome by the horrific act that they just committed, they put the man's remains in the trunk of the car rather than just leaving him there. After taking his money, watch, and all that he had, they proceeded to find another deserted place to discard the remains.

 Then on the National highway, their car broke down and stopped in the middle of that road. The three men got out to determine why the engine had stalled. Then a passerby stopped to help them but they, afraid that their terrible act would be discovered, pretended that they did not need any help. But as the passerby motorist was leaving, he noticed blood dripping from the rear of the vehicle and he called the police to investigate because the scene and the three men looked suspicious. The police came and they saw the blood under the car and on the pavement so they ordered that the trunk be opened.

#11

Well, when the opened the trunk, lo and behold, the Saudi Arabian man lifted himself out, obviously and amazingly alive and in good health, saying to them “Just now this Holy Lady finished stitching my neck, right here (showing them the area of his Adam’s Apple), after first stitching up the rest of my entire body”. Seeing this, the three criminals immediately lost their minds-becoming like mad. The police handcuffed them and as they were being taken away to an asylum for the insane, the criminals started raving that it could not be possible that the Saudi Arabian man whom they killed, beheaded, and dissected could yet be alive.
The Saudi Arabian went to a medical facility to undergo examination by doctors and medical examiners who confirmed and attested that the stitching was done very recently, thereby validating the miraculous event. The stitches were, and still are, obvious. When the Saudi Arabian came out of the car’s trunk, he had the appearance, literally, of just having been refabricated (put back together) to which he continuously confessed that the holy Mother of Jesus had rejoined his body and resurrected him with the help of her Son.

Immediately after this, the Saudi Arabian called his relatives to come to Syria and they all went together to the monastery of Panagia Saidnaya and offered up prayers, praises, and glorification, and instead of the initial gift of $80,000 US (which was promised), he gave $800,000 US to the Mother of God.

 Today, as this man relates the details of that overwhelming miracle, he starts his narration with "When I was a Moslem this happened to me" this indicating he is not longer a Moslem, as neither is his family.

 This miracle stunned with awesome surprise the entire Arabic/Moslem nation and all of the Middle East.

Brotherhood of the Holy Sepulcher, Patriarchate of Jerusalem
By Father Ignatios, Abbot
Holy Monastery of The Shepherds
Bt Ahur-Bethlehem

GREAT LENT, MARCH 2005


#12

WOW! I’ve got to show that to a few people! Beautiful!


#13

Wow,

Unfortunately, this story will fall into the category of “I read it on the internet.”


#14

If you read chapter 19, entitled “Mary” in the Quran, you will learn a lot about what we believe about her.

She is not a prophet, but one of the greatest most pious woman to ever walk this earth. She was a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus (peace be upon him).

Read the chapter if you get a chance, God can tell you her story better than me.

p.s. that chapter entitled “mary” is not the only place where Mary is mentioned


#15

What an intense story! Thanks for sharing.

CARose


#16

[quote=The Eurasian]If I am not mistaken, to Muslims, Mary is “Maryam” and Joseph is “Youseuf or Yousef”
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Yes, Mary=Mariam (maryam)

Joseph = Yusuf

I believe there are 25 prophets mentioned in the Quran, although we know thousands have been sent to different people at different times

for the names of those prophets in arabic and their english names go here
geocities.com/Athens/Forum/3062/prophets.htm


#17

In the internet, the connection between Mohamedanism and The Blessed Virgin Mary is the VIRGIN BIRTH OF OF ISA (JESUS).

In the name of Allah

Jermin Savory: There is no such thing as calling Muslims muhammadians or using the word Muhammadanism. We Muslims don’t worship Muhammad, § nor do we have a religion named after Muhammad §. He is the Prophet. §


#18

In the name of Allah

Mugenone, you are correct, we don’t, As Muslims, we don’t believe that Jesus § os God. For the simple fact that he was created. We don’t believe in Jesus § as the son of God, because he was Just a Prophet §. He may be the son of God in the rightous sense but not literally. You are also right that we don’t believe that he was crucified, even the Bible, if read properly, will confirm this fact.


#19

In the name of Allah

Franze: For muslims the Virgin Mary and Jesus are the same, prophets

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Jermin Savory:** Actually according to the Qur’an, Mary was just a rightous servant of Allah. Jesus § was a Mighty prophet, who was Sent on a Mission to the Lost sheep of the house of Israel. In short, one was a prophet and one was a rightous women of God, chosen about all other women.


#20

In the name of Allah

Mugenone: It says Allah is God because it was God Himself who talked to Mohammed.

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Jermin Savory:** Yes, Allah is the one pure word for the Creator and sustainer of the heavens of and the earth, and all living things that were created. Allah is the arabic word meaning, One And Only true God. Mugenone, Muhammad § wasn’t speaking to Allah (God) he received the revelation from God THROUGH the Ark Angel Gabriel.


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