Israel stations nuclear missile subs off Iran

Israel stations nuclear missile subs off Iran

Three German-built Israeli submarines equipped with nuclear cruise missiles are to be deployed in the Gulf near the Iranian coastline.

The first has been sent in response to Israeli fears that ballistic missiles developed by Iran, Syria and Hezbollah, a political and military organisation in Lebanon, could hit sites in Israel, including air bases and missile launchers...

...The submarines could be used if Iran continues its programme to produce a nuclear bomb. “The 1,500km range of the submarines’ cruise missiles can reach any target in Iran,” said a navy officer.

Apparently responding to the Israeli activity, an Iranian admiral said: “Anyone who wishes to do an evil act in the Persian Gulf will receive a forceful response from us.”...

...Israel’s urgent need to deter the Iran-Syria-Hezbollah alliance was demonstrated last month. Ehud Barak, the defence minister, was said to have shown President Barack Obama classified satellite images of a convoy of ballistic missiles leaving Syria on the way to Hezbollah in Lebanon.

Binyamin Netanyahu, the prime minister, will emphasise the danger to Obama in Washington this week.

Tel Aviv, Israel’s business and defence centre, remains the most threatened city in the world, said one expert. “There are more missiles per square foot targeting Tel Aviv than any other city,” he said....

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[quote="DawnInTexas, post:1, topic:203023"]
Israel stations nuclear missile subs off Iran

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this is all so crazy:banghead:

I definitley agree. these politicians are taking things very far here, maybe too far to turn back? Everything just seems to keep escalating.

[quote="JohnnyK, post:3, topic:203023"]
I definitley agree. these politicians are taking things very far here, maybe too far to turn back? Everything just seems to keep escalating.

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Israel will push as far as their money will allow them to push. They have paid for the silence you hear from the world. They have a plan for a final solution in the Middle East, and they are laying the groundwork for it as we watch and wonder in utter amazement.

It has taken great amounts of planning, patience, and more than anything...MONEY... to get them to this point. For Israel, this is their moment. This has nothing to do with defense, this is simply pushing until someone says stop. But how can paid stooges ever say "stop". We are in new territory now. A new sort of power, financial power, has emboldened this Israeli state, which is becoming the most destabilizing force in the world.

To oppose this form of Zionism is not anti-Semitism, it is simply having the wisdom and courage to see that all is not as it seems, and certainly not as it is being reported. Someone needs to stand up to this rogue nation before they plunge the world into an Apocalypse. May Christ help us all.

Where have all the great statesmen gone?! Has all just power been usurped and corrupted by bribes?! Who will stand up for righteousness?! We should all pray for peace.

There may be less here than the headline claims. The article states that at least one nuclear capable submarine would be permanently stationed in the Persian Gulf.

But earlier reports suggested that Israel already had one submarine permanently stationed there. It has at least three nuclear capable subs, and it was thought that one was permanently in the Red Sea, the other in the Persian Gulf, and the third rotating between the two to provide relief.

Granted, the opening paragraphs said that all three submarines would be stationed near Iran. But that would suggest an attack was imminent, and I don't think Israel would leak such news in advance, losing the element of surprise.

I suspect, and hope, that this is just a bit of saber rattling intended to harass the Iranians by putting their military on needless alert.

It seems to me that Iran is the big destabilizing force here. They routinely speak of anihilating Israel. The Arab states are very fearful of a nuclear Iran. Then again, if stability is what you want, an Iranian hegemony would certainly achieve that goal. It would be an oppressive stability under a cruel theocratic dictatorship, though.

[quote="unafraid, post:4, topic:203023"]
Israel will push as far as their money will allow them to push. They have paid for the silence you hear from the world. They have a plan for a final solution in the Middle East, and they are laying the groundwork for it as we watch and wonder in utter amazement.

It has taken great amounts of planning, patience, and more than anything...MONEY... to get them to this point. For Israel, this is their moment. This has nothing to do with defense, this is simply pushing until someone says stop. But how can paid stooges ever say "stop". We are in new territory now. A new sort of power, financial power, has emboldened this Israeli state, which is becoming the most destabilizing force in the world.

To oppose this form of Zionism is not anti-Semitism, it is simply having the wisdom and courage to see that all is not as it seems, and certainly not as it is being reported. Someone needs to stand up to this rogue nation before they plunge the world into an Apocalypse. May Christ help us all.

Where have all the great statesmen gone?! Has all just power been usurped and corrupted by bribes?! Who will stand up for righteousness?! We should all pray for peace.

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What monetary gains could Israel possibly gain from launching nuclear bombs on a neighboring nation? This conflict isent about money any more than ww2 was, its about hatred, the Arabs hate the Israelis for taking there land and pushing them out then defeating them, the Jews distrust the Arabs at best because of the constant attacks, Israel fights back while the opposition uses human shields, then they try to inspect a flotilla(which by the way was organized by groups with alleged links to hamas) that is delivering supplies to a region the Israelis are blockading and get attacked, so they fight back. while the "protesters" who provoked the indecent in the first place are treated as heroes and Israel gets further isolated, exactly what the organizers of the flotilla wanted

so now Israel is planing on stopping yet another of its neighbors from creating the most devastating weapon known to humanity which in Iran's hands could only mean death for Israel, i think the nuclear tipped cruse missiles are overkill but for Israel it is a matter of existence

Under the "leadership" of President Obama Israel has no friend in the United States. BO talks out of both sides of his mouth while expousing the loyalty and friendship of the US, he is dissing them at almost every turn. Netanyahu is well aware of this fact by now. He has been threatened enough with virtually no help from the US except for empty lip service. Obama has ignored Iran's bullying of Israel and everyone else for that matter, doing virtually zero to impose sanctions of any kind. Kind of like he has done zero for any other crisis facing him. Iran is not far off from obtaining nuclear power themselves, and have promised time and again they will wipe Israel off the map as soon as they have the capability, and anyone who thinks they would never go that far is living in la la land.

It is indeed a threatening situation for the world, and prayer is crucial. Prayer and sacrifice......pray for PEACE!!!

[quote="unafraid, post:4, topic:203023"]
Israel will push as far as their money will allow them to push. They have paid for the silence you hear from the world. They have a plan for a final solution in the Middle East, and they are laying the groundwork for it as we watch and wonder in utter amazement....

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How much money has AIPAC donated, over the past 10 years, to say....The National Association of Realtors, or the National Bar Association?

www.opensecrets.org

"Jews run the world, I overheard a conversation in a Jewish cemetary!", same old story, rehashed, unafraid, and shameful.

I will pray for peace, but I will also pray for you, as it appears you have some serious bias issues, almost running into sheer "hatred".

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God bless.

Israel doesn't have nuclear subs. Their subs are diesel-electric powered, they bought them from the German. Diesel subs will have to surface to recharge their battery. Stationing a diesel sub in the Persian Gulf is foolish because it is susceptible to attack during surfacing. There have been talks of German hydrogen fuel cell powered subs going into service about now. If it's true, Israel could theoretically sit off the coast of Iran and wait for an opportunist time to annihilate Iran without even getting detected. Hydrogen fuel cell powered subs are very quiet.

[quote="MugenOne, post:10, topic:203023"]
Israel doesn't have nuclear subs.

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Yep, The Times Online headline is misleading. The subs are capable of launching nuclear armed cruise missiles. But that doesn't make them nuclear submarines - at least not according to American English. British English must be different.

[quote="MugenOne, post:10, topic:203023"]
Their subs are diesel-electric powered, they bought them from the German. Diesel subs will have to surface to recharge their battery. Stationing a diesel sub in the Persian Gulf is foolish because it is susceptible to attack during surfacing. There have been talks of German hydrogen fuel cell powered subs going into service about now. If it's true, Israel could theoretically sit off the coast of Iran and wait for an opportunist time to annihilate Iran without even getting detected. Hydrogen fuel cell powered subs are very quiet.

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Its a good point. An interesting mystery is whether Israel has gotten new submarines. Its well known that Israel has three older Dolphin class (U209) subs, and that the tubes were modified to accommodate cruise missile launches. However, Israel has been negotiating getting newer subs from Germany, and at one point was expecting delivery this year. The new subs would be more capable, including a more efficient propulsion system.

The AIP system chosen for the 2 newest Dolphin boats was not specified. While HDW owns Kockums AB and its successful Stirling AIP system, it also has its own technology using Siemens PEM hydrogen fuel cells. This HDW system is used in the U212/214 Class, which the Dolphins resemble and which are also derived from the U209 1300/1400 subs.

defenseindustrydaily.com/germany-may-sell-2-more-dolphin-subs-to-israel-for-117b-01528/

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