Israel used 'calorie count' to limit Gaza food during blockade, critics claim


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The Israeli military made precise calculations of Gaza's daily calorie needs to avoid malnutrition during a blockade imposed on the Palestinian territory between 2007 and mid-2010, according to files the defence ministry released on Wednesday under a court order.

guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/17/israeli-military-calorie-limit-gaza?newsfeed=true

Also, see

juancole.com/2012/10/creepy-israeli-planning-for-palestinian-food-insecurity-in-gaza-revealed.html

An [*Israeli human rights organization, Gisha, sued in Israeli courts to force the release of a planning document]("http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/17/israeli-military-calorie-limit-gaza?newsfeed=true") for ‘putting the Palestinians on a diet’ without risking the bad press of mass starvation, and the courts concurred. The document, produced by the Israeli army, appears to be a calculation of how to make sure, despite the Israeli blockade, that Palestinians got an average of 2279 calories a day, the basic need. But by planning on limiting the calories in that way, the Israeli military was actually plotting to keep Palestinians in Gaza (half of them children) permanently on the brink of malnutrition, what health professionals call “food insecurity”. *

This is utterly despicable, but it's the reality we face. This is the millstone that we Americans and our government are tethered to, thanks to both political parties which control a venal Congress in thrall to the Israel lobby, a Congress which sees it proper to give Netanyahu 29 standing ovations while Netanyahu's government carries out such policies.

This is one of the reasons America has a terrorism problem.


#2

Terrible, terrible. Any wonder Israel, not without reason, has such a bad press:tsktsk:


#3

Israel ensured that NOT ONE Gazan starved to death. Any "normal" country in Israel's shoes wouldn't have to an entity that shoots missiles at its civilian population daily, and our neighbors would have made they ALL starve to death.

Red Cross official: Gaza isn't experiencing a humanitarian crisis

Egyptian Journalist Describes 'Absolute Prosperity' in Gaza

Besieged Ghetto? Gaza Water Park Opens

Check out this Gaza luxury hotel

And another is opening soon

The Moby Dick Hotel is opening in the Gaza Strip. Details about the hotel, including room count and owner, are sketchy, but several media reports indicate rates will be as high as **US $405**

hotelnewsnow.com/articles.aspx/6165/Global-hotel-pulse-Middle-East-Africa-news

Gaza opens Olympic sized swimming pool

tomgrossmedia.com/mideastdispatches/archives/001127.html

debatepolitics.com/breaking-news-blogs/77360-bargain-prices-zionist-clothes-new-gaza-luxury-mal.html

undhimmi.com/2010/05/31/gaza-do-these-people-look-like-they-need-an-aid-flotilla/

youtube.com/watch?v=DU5NmRkaIt4

youtube.com/watch?v=L5yepuNio78&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_424440

Cherries and lychees selling for NIS 25 a kilo in Gaza

(That's $6.25/kilo or $2.85/lb.)

"Blockaded" Gaza is Awash in Goods


#4

Despicable, posting this anti-Semitic GARBAGE.

:mad:


#5

Those who are occupied are suffering badly. It is wrong to treat anyone the way these poor people are being treated. All people deserve a level of dignity. Perhaps the best book on this subject I have ever read is "I Shall Not Hate: A Gaza Doctor's Journey on the Road to Peace and Human Dignity ". amazon.com/Shall-Not-Hate-Doctors-Journey/dp/0802779492

I recommend it.


#6

Making sure food needs are met during a blockade is “despicable”?

The wasn’t any Israel around to blame when Islamic terrorists were seizing us sailors and holding them for ransom, 200+ years ago.


#7

[quote="YKohen, post:3, topic:302281"]
Israel ensured that NOT ONE Gazan starved to death. Any "normal" country in Israel's shoes wouldn't have to an entity that shoots missiles at its civilian population daily, and our neighbors would have made they **ALL** starve to death.

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You would have to provide evidence that no one died of malnutrition, or associated diseases.No, a normal country would not hold a people on the brink of deliberate, calculated starvation. Though by the tone of your post, and the* unambiguous* wording, you clearly do wish they had. There's a word for that, beginning with 'G'.

Continuous Violations of Human Rights in Palestine
Amnesty
Human Rights Watch
Global Research:Human Rigthts Violations in Palestine
UN: Violations in Israeli prisons
Human Rights Abuses in Israel and Occupied Palestine
Israel must stop violating Palestinian human rights: UN
Israels Slow Motion Genocide
Washington Post's Jennifer Rubin promotes call for Palestinian genocide

You could go on ad infinitum, its extremely easy to link to a load of newspaper articles and reports by organisations interested in human rights. There may be twosides to a story. No objective observer, (and I'm neither Jewish or Muslim, Israeli nor Palestinian) could condone this kind of behaviour.:tsktsk:


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[quote="Pilgrim1701, post:7, topic:302281"]
You would have to provide evidence that no one died of malnutrition, or associated diseases...

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Actually, YOU would have to provide evidence that people DID die of malnutrition or associated diseases.

See, in the civilized world, people are innocent until proven guilty.

Note that there aren't constant newspaper articles about such a phenomenon? Were this the case, then there would be.

By the way, you must not know the meaning of the word "genocide".

noun
the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

dictionary.reference.com/browse/genocide

With a growing population in Gaza, it's a very odd assertion to make; one that would be laughable if it wasn't so sick.

Oh, and by the way, since the border with Egypt is open, the world is their oyster.


#9

[quote="scipio337, post:6, topic:302281"]
The wasn't any Israel around to blame when Islamic terrorists were seizing us sailors and holding them for ransom, 200+ years ago.

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Of course not.

But who even knows about that time any more?

No one is learning the straight facts and years of history any more; too much time is needed on all the senstivities and perspectives.

Do young people even know what the "shores of Tripoli" were unless they join the USMC?

These days, to promote knowledge of history, you need to make it as a movie.

ICXC NIKA


#10

[quote="Pilgrim1701, post:7, topic:302281"]
You would have to provide evidence that no one died of malnutrition, or associated diseases.No, a normal country would not hold a people on the brink of deliberate, calculated starvation. Though by the tone of your post, and the* unambiguous* wording, you clearly do wish they had. There's a word for that, beginning with 'G'.
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2200 calories a day? That's about what the US army uses as a basis to calculate the logistics to feed an army in the field. It doesn't sound like the US army is starving its own people.

freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

A 30 year old 160 pound man only needs 2021 calories a day to maintain weight.


#11

[quote="SamH, post:10, topic:302281"]
2200 calories a day? That's about what the US army uses as a basis to calculate the logistics to feed an army in the field. It doesn't sound like the US army is starving its own people.

freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

A 30 year old 160 pound man only needs 2021 calories a day to maintain weight.

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Great post!

And people have to understand that:

  1. Soldiers need more calories than others because they are much more active than the average person.

  2. The average person in Gaza needs far less than an adult male in any case.


#12

To those who think that Israel is to blame for the attacks in the Middle East, what is Isreal to do, put down all of their arms and be killed? Take a look at a map of that area and compare the size of Israel and nations that around it that want, not just all Israelies, all Jews dead. Remember that we (the US) are the 'big Satan' and Israel is the 'little Satan'. :onpatrol::knight2::banghead:


#13

[quote="YKohen, post:11, topic:302281"]
Great post!

And people have to understand that:

  1. Soldiers need more calories than others because they are much more active than the average person.

  2. The average person in Gaza needs far less than an adult male in any case.

[/quote]

Thank God they have the Israelis to look after them :rolleyes:


#14

[quote="YKohen, post:8, topic:302281"]
Actually, YOU would have to provide evidence that people DID die of malnutrition or associated diseases.

See, in the civilized world, people are innocent until proven guilty.

Note that there aren't constant newspaper articles about such a phenomenon? Were this the case, then there would be.

By the way, you must not know the meaning of the word "genocide".

noun
the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

dictionary.reference.com/browse/genocide

With a growing population in Gaza, it's a very odd assertion to make; one that would be laughable if it wasn't so sick.

Oh, and by the way, since the border with Egypt is open, the world is their oyster.

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:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


#15

[quote="J_Peterson, post:13, topic:302281"]
Thank God they have the Israelis to look after them :rolleyes:

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Agreed. The rest of the Arab would would let them starve.


#16

[quote="SamH, post:15, topic:302281"]
Agreed. The rest of the Arab would would let them starve.

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One thing if the Arab world cared so much about their Arab brothers under the 'evil' Israel, why don't they (the Arabs) take them in?:cool:


#17

Terrible.


#18

[quote="YKohen, post:8, topic:302281"]

With a growing population in Gaza, it's a very odd assertion to make; one that would be laughable if it wasn't so sick

it is sickeningly misleading because the population growth you point to is comparative to a long long period of decline due mostly to forced migration of many palestinians away from their homeland in just being unable to stand the misery and hopelessness of the conditions they are forced to live in under the occupation. Agree? I mean statistically, okay? The population growth however slight or large is not due to the benificience of the occupiers, or are you saying it is?

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#19

[quote="tabycat, post:16, topic:302281"]
One thing if the Arab world cared so much about their Arab brothers under the 'evil' Israel, why don't they (the Arabs) take them in?:cool:

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What bearing does this have on the article provided? The issue here is the rationing of food to a people who are already being illegally occupied by the Israeli government.


#20

[quote="YKohen, post:8, topic:302281"]
Note that there aren't constant newspaper articles about such a phenomenon? Were this the case, then there would be.

must be joking, right? did the nazis print constant newspaper articles about what they were doing to the people in the concentration camps?

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