It seems like all of the religions are "inauthentic"


#1

Compared to Catholics. Really, I don’t take them seriously. Many of my Protestant friends have cheated on their husbands but none of the Catholics have. We just seem like a different breed. Even when given the freedom to cheat, it is almost unheard of for us to do it. If we do, it is a huge shame and would not happen again.

I guess I just think we are the best in the end.


#2

Tudie, I wish this was true. The fact is, Catholics, like all people, are sinners. One doesn’t have to look very far to find Catholics doing immoral and unethical things. Each day we see Catholic politicians countering Church teachings and the evening news is full of stories of Catholics breaking the law.

We strive to do well and keep out of sin, but we are human, that is why we need assistance. Jesus founded our Church to show us that way, but we need to put a little effort into it.


#3

I also know quite a few Protestants that don’t ascribe to high morals. I’ll be fair and say Catholics aren’t a perfect bunch either and Christ does warn against being on high horses boasting all over the place, that aside, it seems to me that the Protestant ideas of “guaranteed” salvation only seem to perpetuate bad behavior cuz, why be good? You can sleep around, steal your neighbor’s newspaper and lie to your wife and still get into heaven?


#4

[quote=tudie]Compared to Catholics. Really, I don’t take them seriously. Many of my Protestant friends have cheated on their husbands but none of the Catholics have. We just seem like a different breed. Even when given the freedom to cheat, it is almost unheard of for us to do it. If we do, it is a huge shame and would not happen again.

I guess I just think we are the best in the end.
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If many of your Protestant friends have cheated on their husbands, why are you still friends? I would certainly try to love the sinner and hate the sin, but I’m sure I could be chummy with an adulterer.


#5

Tudie and Chocula,

It seems to me that you are both being rather naive, egocentric, and prideful in ascribing to Catholics a higher moral standard of behavior than is exercised by Protestants and others. If Catholics were as holy as you would choose to believe, confession would hardly be needed. Unfortunately, although I don’t have statistics right at hand, I believe that rates of civil divorce among Catholics do not significantly differ from those observed among persons of other religious persuasions, nor does the instance of criminal behavior, probably the closest one can come to objectively measuring sinfulness in various strata of the churched population.

Many years,

Neil


#6

[quote=Irish Melkite]Tudie and Chocula,

Unfortunately, although I don’t have statistics right at hand, I believe that rates of civil divorce among Catholics do not significantly differ from those observed among persons of other religious persuasions, nor does the instance of criminal behavior, probably the closest one can come to objectively measuring sinfulness in various strata of the churched population.

Many years,

Neil
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If one looks at Catholics couples who attend Mass regularly, the divorce rate is very much lower than the population generally (maybe 10%?). I would bet the same is true for criminal behavior. I do however agree that we, as Catholics, have our own problems.


#7

“If one looks at Catholics couples who attend Mass regularly, the divorce rate is very much lower than the population generally (maybe 10%?).”

actually the same is true for protestants who attend church regularly. the rate is about 42% as opposed to 52%. the crime rate is also similar among catholics and protestants who attend church regularly. the difference comes to those who don’t attend regularly. then it is the lapsed or non-practicing or “easter/christmas” catholics who commit more crime as judged by what religion most prisoners claim. it is overwhelmingly catholics (again, not regular mass attenders) who occupy our penal system. so to sit here and say that catholics are “more moral” or “better” is to ignore the facts. over all, protestants and catholics who attend church are the same.


#8

If you want to discuss dogmatic differences between Catholics and those of other faiths, that’s OK with me. But, it seems to me, it’s unfair to paint non-Catholics with such a broad brush.


#9

[quote=STJOMO]If you want to discuss dogmatic differences between Catholics and those of other faiths, that’s OK with me. But, it seems to me, it’s unfair to paint non-Catholics with such a broad brush.
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I have to agree the initial post in this thread is patently offensive.

“We” are a “different breed”?!? The “best in the end”?!?

How “authentic” is it to marry a non-Catholic? forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?p=47044#post47044

Tu quoque,

-C


#10

[quote=bengal_fan]“If one looks at Catholics couples who attend Mass regularly, the divorce rate is very much lower than the population generally (maybe 10%?).”

actually the same is true for protestants who attend church regularly. the rate is about 42% as opposed to 52%. the crime rate is also similar among catholics and protestants who attend church regularly. the difference comes to those who don’t attend regularly. then it is the lapsed or non-practicing or “easter/christmas” catholics who commit more crime as judged by what religion most prisoners claim. it is overwhelmingly catholics (again, not regular mass attenders) who occupy our penal system. so to sit here and say that catholics are “more moral” or “better” is to ignore the facts. over all, protestants and catholics who attend church are the same.
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My point was not to suggest that Catholics are better people, just to suggest that true Christian believers are in fact, just that and thus are less prone to divorce, crime, adultery etc. Your claim that the penal system is overwhelming populated by Catholics is patently false and I don’t think that you can provide some convincing evidence to the contrary.


#11

first off, the penal system isn’t overwhelmed by catholics, it is overwhelmed by people raised catholic or who claim catholicism, but i would say they don’t know what they believe. my information comes from personal experience of ministering to prisoners and friends who are deeply involved in prison ministries. so no, i don’t have any book to cite and for that i am sorry. i should have said, “in my experience”…


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