DelsonJacobs. You mentioned:
As a former Jehovah’s Witness elder and regular pioneer (as well as formerly one of their 144,000), I am happy that you reminded people to be good to any Jehovah’s Witness who may visit this and other threads or site(s).
But as you might have noticed, the invitation to participate in such a discussion is not readily being accepted, at least not on this thread.
First of all welcome home DelsonJacobs. It always absolutely amazes me when someone has a long distance journey to the Church and makes it here. What a grace from God!
I realize the “the invitation to participate in such a discussion is not readily being accepted”. Yes you are correct.
Yet the JWs internally know from reading Awake! and Watchtower periodicals, that Catholic literature is frequently being quoted by their own elders . . . . so evidently SOMEBODY at Bethel is reading Catholic Literature (no doubt they count themselves in some sense, as exceptions to reading Catholic Literature being equivalent to eating off the table of Satan).
Thanks for your input and please continue.
To our JW friends:
I do hope there are JWs here that are “lurking”. I invite you to continue to do so, and if you feel compelled, please offer a rebuttal from a JW perspective.
To the JWs that may be reading, here is one quick contrast:
Catholic view: Jesus is true God and True man.
JW view: Jesus is a mere man (who was really in all actuality merely St. Michael the Archangel).
Some analysis: I once asked a JW to read me Colossians 2:9 from the New World Translation.
(To readers that may not know. BEWARE! The New World Translation is loaded with translational errors and should not be considered by anyone “a Bible”. I will quote it below but ask you to keep this in mind—it is not a “Bible” translation).
**COLOSSIANS 2:9 (New World Translation of the Jehovah’s Witnesses) **9 because it is in him that all the fullness of the divine quality dwells bodily.
And I just asked him to repeat this a couple of times. I reminded him that this is talking about Jesus.
Then I asked him: "Do you affirm in Jesus ‘the fullness of the divine quality dwells bodily’”?
He quickly retorted: No!
I said: “Isn’t that interesting. I am having you quote from your own New World translation a verse and you say you deny it?”
I say this not to crow about how the JWs have no answers to Christianity or to the questions that I posed to them over the years (although they have had no answers—even when they brought out an elder with several underlings on one occasion). I could have put this up years ago if it were a bragging rights game. But this is no “game” at all. This is very serious dialogue.
Rather I feel compelled to talk about these actual discussions for the sake of learning.
The JWs and I have discussed issues such as sola Scriptura, divorce and re-marriage, the Divinity of Jesus, and many other issues. They have sent out many to our home (but as I have pointed out elsewhere, they have not came back out for about two years now).
I have also tried to be kind and tell them I affirm the commitment they make (but attenuating that praise with the challenge to commit to truth).
Many years ago, I told one JW man who I enjoyed his company at my home, to call me and I would take him out fishing (I know it must be absolutely “hades” for these people to go through the “disfellowshipping” process so I wanted him to know I would be his friend). He looked at his colleague sort of embarrassed that he and I were having an enjoyable discussion and they quickly left. Regrettably he never called nor did he come back.