Yes, thanks for the respectful discussion which is thought and prayer-provoking.
You don’t have to answer of course, as it sounds like you’re not going to continue. I realize we’re not convincing each other.Just some questions:
Where does Vatican II deny the repeated Papal teaching (in Encyclicals) that Mary is Mediatrix of All Graces? Didn’t Pope Benedict XVI say that Vatican II did not deny any previous teachings?
I haven’t seen any teaching from JPII–who called Mary “Mediatrix of All Graces” repeatedly–to the effect that this teaching is false. Nor have I seen any Pope state this. Pope Benedict XVI invoked Mary Mediatrix of All Graces when he announced he was stepping down I believe.
As far as the Mariological Congress in 1997 in Jasna Gora… where did they say that this idea lacks theological foundation?
As far as Church Tradition, Vatican II affirms St. Irenaeus’s second century statement that Mary is–by Christ’s grace–“the cause of our salvation” and the New Eve. This is implicit teaching of Mary’s mediation, as is the idea that she’s immaculately conceived and the Mother of God. Since Jesus and the Holy Spirit are also God, we always need a mediatrix with them: namely, the woman exalted to be the Mother of God.
The Popes have repeatedly affirmed St. Bernard’s teaching, quoting him in their Encyclicals. And I found this article at Catholic Culture:
"By the fourth century, the Church Fathers manifested a profound understanding of Mary’s function as Mediatrix. In reference to the Blessed Virgin, St. Ephraem (373) said: “With the Mediator, you are the Mediatrix of the entire world” (S. Ephraem, Syri opera graeca et latine, ed., Assemani, v. 3, Romae, pp. 525, 528-9, 532). St. Cyril of Alexandria, in one of the greatest Marian sermons of antiquity, said: “Hail Mary Theotokos, venerable treasure of the whole world…it is you through whom the Holy Trinity is glorified and adored,…through whom the tempter, the devil is cast down from heaven, through whom the fallen creature is raised up to heaven, through whom all creation, once imprisoned by idolatry, has reached knowledge of the truth, through whom holy baptism has come to believers…through whom nations are brought to repentance…” (Hom. in Deiparam, PG 65, p.681). Antipater of Bostra, another Father of the Council of Ephesus (AD 431), wrote: “Hail you who acceptably intercede as a Mediatrix for mankind.” St. Andrew of Crete, St. John Damascene, St. Germanus of Constantinople, St. Peter Damian, St. Bernard of Clairvaux and St. Bernardine of Siena all spoke either explicitly of Mary as Mediatrix of all Graces or of Marian mediation. Such citations became ever more frequent by numerous Doctors of the Church, mystics, saints, and writers throughout the Middle Ages up to the modern era. St. Bernard of Clairvaux stated: “God has willed that we should have nothing which would not pass through the hands of Mary” (Hom. III in vig. nativit., n. 10, PL 183, 100).