Jesus is Praying


#1

According to other religions, Jesus is not God because he is also praying to God…If he is really God, why would he pray to himself?

Ex: “Father forgive them for they did know what they are doing”

and “Father why have you forsaken me”


#2

Do they use this passage alone? or have they ignore other passages in the Bible where Jesus said in the Book of Revelation,

8* “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty. Rev 1:8

And the Father, and I are One. Jesus is God. He also said, “Before Abraham was, I AM!”

Jews who were there with Jesus find this difficult to grasp and threaten to stone him.

Jesus is God. He has human nature and a divine nature. He has a hypostatic union with God the Father and the Holy Spirit. They are not three gods, But One God.

Jesus did in fact said, Baptize them In the Name of the Father, And of the Son, and Of the Holy Spirit.

Note, he didn’t say Names. He said Name singular.

You are sadly mistaken. I don’t know your reason for relying on other religions. They aren’t the Church founded by Jesus Christ. The Catholic Church is.


#3

The Catechism of the Catholic Church states:

The dogma of the Holy Trinity

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The Trinity is One. We do not confess three Gods, but one God in three persons, the "consubstantial Trinity."83 The divine persons do not share the one divinity among themselves but each of them is God whole and entire: "The Father is that which the Son is, the Son that which the Father is, the Father and the Son that which the Holy Spirit is, i.e., by nature one God."84 In the words of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215): "Each of the persons is that supreme reality, viz., the divine substance, essence or nature."85

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The divine persons are really distinct from one another. "God is one but not solitary."86 “Father,” “Son,” “Holy Spirit” are not simply names designating modalities of the divine being, for they are really distinct from one another: "He is not the Father who is the Son, nor is the Son he who is the Father, nor is the Holy Spirit he who is the Father or the Son."87 They are distinct from one another in their relations of origin: "It is the Father who generates, the Son who is begotten, and the Holy Spirit who proceeds."88 The divine Unity is Triune.

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The divine persons are relative to one another. Because it does not divide the divine unity, the real distinction of the persons from one another resides solely in the relationships which relate them to one another: "In the relational names of the persons the Father is related to the Son, the Son to the Father, and the Holy Spirit to both. While they are called three persons in view of their relations, we believe in one nature or substance."89 Indeed "everything (in them) is one where there is no opposition of relationship."90 "Because of that unity the Father is wholly in the Son and wholly in the Holy Spirit; the Son is wholly in the Father and wholly in the Holy Spirit; the Holy Spirit is wholly in the Father and wholly in the Son."91

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St. Gregory of Nazianzus, also called “the Theologian,” entrusts this summary of Trinitarian faith to the catechumens of Constantinople:

Above all guard for me this great deposit of faith for which I live and fight, which I want to take with me as a companion, and which makes me bear all evils and despise all pleasures: I mean the profession of faith in the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. I entrust it to you today. By it I am soon going to plunge you into water and raise you up from it. I give it to you as the companion and patron of your whole life. I give you but one divinity and power, existing one in three, and containing the three in a distinct way. Divinity without disparity of substance or nature, without superior degree that raises up or inferior degree that casts down . . . the infinite co-naturality of three infinites. Each person considered in himself is entirely God . . . the three considered together. . . . I have not even begun to think of unity when the Trinity bathes me in its splendor. I have not even begun to think of the Trinity when unity grasps me. . . .92

usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1sect2chpt1art1p2.htm


#4

The way I understand it

The Father is who He is, God is what He is.

The Son is who He is,God is what He is.

The Holy Spirit is who He is, God is **what **He is.

The who part describes the person.

The what part describes the nature.

We believe in one God with three persons.

Like one hand with three fingers.

Kellie is who I am, human is what I am.

Human is my nature. I only have one nature.

Jesus is God because His Father is God.

Jesus is human because His mother is human.

Jesus has two natures both human and Divine.


#5

Regarding about the verse in John 8:58- “Before Abraham was born I AM”

According to JW’s… The “I AM” in John 8:58 and “I AM” in Exodus 3:14 is different in context because Jesus did not use this NAME or TITLE in his prehuman existence…

Again, the context shows this to be the correct understanding. This time the Jews wanted to stone Jesus for claiming to “have seen Abraham” although, as they said, he was not yet 50 years old. (Verse 57) Jesus’ natural response was to tell the truth about his age. So he naturally told them that he “was alive before Abraham was born!” -The Simple English Bible.

They even explained that changing “I AM” to “I have been” doesnt really matter because other bible versions also changed “I AM”

For EXAMPLE:
1869: “From before Abraham was, I have been.”
-The New Testament, by G. R. Noyes.

1935: “I existed before Abraham was born!”
-The Bible An American Translation, by J. M. P. Smith and E. J. Goodspeed.

1965: “Before Abraham was born, I was already the one that I am.”
-Das Neue Testament, by J��rg Zink.

1981: “I was alive before Abraham was born!”
-The Simple English Bible.

1984: “Before Abraham came into existence, I have been.”
-New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures.


#6

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